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#1
Hi all,
Im having a problem was installing my new motorised dish @ the weekend
have the dish set up but the receiver which is an echostar 890 will not move the dish to the selected sat it keeps resetting itself to 0 degrees.

any one got an idea why its doing this..
 
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Claw said:
Hi all,
Im having a problem was installing my new motorised dish @ the weekend
have the dish set up but the receiver which is an echostar 890 will not move the dish to the selected sat it keeps resetting itself to 0 degrees.

any one got an idea why its doing this..
What do you mean by resetting itself to 0 degrees ? So did it move at first or ever so far ? Are you sure you do not have the receiver menu on a reference postion be accident which is often 0 degrees.
 
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#3
at the moment its on hotbird when im changing channels on hotbird
the motor is moving the dish 0 degrees
this also happens when I select another sat ie astra.
the motor moves to 0 degrees.
 
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#4
Still no clear to me. Your motor from "0" turned to hotbird on a particular channel at first ? Then by changing channels either a different channel on that sat or an other channel on some other bird it goes to "0" ? So how did you get to hotbird in the first place ? It must then at least moved once right ?
 
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#5
the motor has never moved properly
i manually selected hotbird using the buttons on the motor.
so while changing channels on hotbird the motor moves to 0 degrees
also if i select another sat ie astra the motor moves itself to 0 degrees.

its to do with the receiver its sending the wrong coordinates to the motor.
dont know what im doing wrong.all the setup on the receiver looks correct
 
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#6
Are you "storing" the satellite positions?
 
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yes had stored astra and hotbird.
but once I tested it the motor would not move to astra it went to 0 degrees.

its baffling me
 
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Claw said:
the motor has never moved properly
i manually selected hotbird using the buttons on the motor.
so while changing channels on hotbird the motor moves to 0 degrees
also if i select another sat ie astra the motor moves itself to 0 degrees.

its to do with the receiver its sending the wrong coordinates to the motor.
dont know what im doing wrong.all the setup on the receiver looks correct
You cannot set up like that, if you move the motor with the onboard buttons, it will not be sending the correct signals to the receiver. How did you determine the motor's due south zero position?

If you are in Ireland, your due South satellite should be 5West or perhaps 8 West, depends on whereabouts.
 
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#9
Think ill reinstall the dish again.

Thanks all for your help.
 
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#10
Have a look at Longstockings' sticky in the Stickies section above, should be of some help. :)
 
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Thanks Rolfw
 
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#12
Claw, first-off dish communications are one way, if you move the dish with the receiver the receiver knows where it is pointing, but if you move the dish using its controls the receiver still thinks it's pointing in the same direction.

Secondly, I seem to recall my old Echostar storing the position for each channel as the default (zero degrees) when doing a channel scan, so I think you should delete each satellite, set it up so that the receiver knows its position and that there's a motor attached, then re-scan. That'll store the correct postition of each satellite along with the channel.
 
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Hi all,
gonna reinstall later today as the weather is perfect in Ireland today.
Can you tell me if this is correct.

I have the dish set up to due south the motor position will be 0 degrees
Going to us the usals setup on the receiver
enter the Longatude and latitude
then going to set up my receiver to move to atlantic bird 8w which the highest sat in the sky where I am and store the position once get clear picture
then is it just a matter of of telling the receiver where the rest of the sats are IE hotbird astra etc.

Thanks again for all your help.
 
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#14
What is your longitude Claw?
 
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#15
You may not be able to get 8W. I would suggest you guess 8degrees west of south and set your motor at 0 there. Then use your remote and move the motor east until you get Hotbird (strong signal). Do your recalculation now. You can then easily tweek any errors in your guess. If you choose a week signal to start it could take forever.
 
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#16
Rolf

My longitude is 8.623 w
 
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#17
You do not have to go to 8w, since you can pick any sat you like. Use Astra or Hotbird with the strong signals. Since you have usals just let it turn to that position and try to find a signal by setting up the dish. If you have your 0 pretty much to south you should pick up a signal. I hit Astra right away by my setup and the motor scale matched. If not check on the motor if the scale is were it supposed to be. Use the calculator on satlex. Then just adjust and turn the motor on the pole a bit.
 
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#18
Thanks Classi.
I will try it with 1w or 5 w hopefully that shoud do it.
Thanks everybody I will let ye know how i get on.
will post tommorrow
 
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Claw said:
Thanks Classi.
I will try it with 1w or 5 w hopefully that shoud do it.
Thanks everybody I will let ye know how i get on.
will post tommorrow
You are around Cork I suppose so if you use 1 West as a test the motor scale should show 8,22E to pick up a signal

Claasi
 
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#20
I would personally go for 5W if you can't find 8W (although this would still be better), the motor offset will then be less and the better the chance of getting the arc right.
 
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