Hispasat & Hotbird Reception in West Turkey

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Looking for anyone to share experiences. I currently have hotbird, using a 90cm dish but can't receive a number of channels, like TPS Star and other TPS on frequency 10,758,000, and those on frequencies between 11,843,000 to 11,977,000

I've also got Turksat, all channels.

I'm interested in putting up another dish for Hispasat reception, and am interested to know what size dish is required in practice and what English language channels are possible to receive and decrypt...

Thanks and tesekkur!
 
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I live in Izmir and get hispa (spain and portugal) on 2 meter dish.

both highly recommended because they have many channels where they show movies in English.
 
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tuncogel said:
I live in Izmir and get hispa (spain and portugal) on 2 meter dish.

both highly recommended because they have many channels where they show movies in English.
Thanks, Tuncogel. Have you any experience with a smaller dish for Hispa, or is 2 meters really necessary?
 
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Speaking for eastern Greece which has similar conditions of reception as western Turkey if not too far from the Aegean i can say for sure that in the North (Thrace) you can get full Hispasat 1C+D with 1m and in Rhodos full Hispasat 1C with 1.20m but for full 1D reception all the time you might need a 1.80m Offset.
 
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deepbluesky said:
Speaking for eastern Greece which has similar conditions of reception as western Turkey if not too far from the Aegean i can say for sure that in the North (Thrace) you can get full Hispasat 1C+D with 1m and in Rhodos full Hispasat 1C with 1.20m but for full 1D reception all the time you might need a 1.80m Offset.
Thanks, DBS. I'm on the Aegean near Izmir. From yours and Tuncogel's experience it looks like I'll need 1.80 or 2.00. Strong winds here - I hope the roof can take it!
 
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You might get the missing TPS frequencies with 1.80m but don't be so sure about that. I fear that for full and permanent Hotbird reception you will need >=3m there.
 
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You might get the missing TPS frequencies with 1.80m but don't be so sure about that. I fear that for full and permanent Hotbird reception you will need >=3m there.
Hmmmm... I'm just imagining the local impact of a 3m dish in my miniscule garden, roof mounting is out - there are some TV channels I can live without! I'm inclined to go for 1.80 or 2.00 to get the Hispasat channels and then treat anything extra that I can pick up on Hotbird as a bonus.
 
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There is a chance that with the launch of Hotbird 7A+8 Superbeam frequencies will switch over to Widebeam as we had a conversation here http://www.satellites.co.uk/php-bin/forum/showthread.php?t=38231&page=2

Nobody really knows if this will happen but if i were you i wouldn't spend a fortune for a 3m, especially not in a windy area. A 1.80m can also get lots of satellites in your region is much cheaper and easier to install.

It's up to you.
 
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my satelllite installer people tell me that with a 1.5 m. dish you can get Hispa fairly clear from Izmir.
Strangely,2 meter dish is very weak for Sky Italia which is also an excellent package with many English Language channells.
 
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Well Superbeam frequencies, especially those from HB4 lose a lot on signal moving a little eastwards. A 1.50m Gibertini is in Larisa (22.5E) on its limit on some of the weaker frequencies whereas in Corfu (20E) you can get them all on a 90cm and since Izmir is on 27E imagine how big the dish must be to get everything all the time, especially when the LNB is boiling because of the heat which causes a lot of thermal noise.
 
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Thanks again both of you, it's been very helpful. I'll probably buy a 1.80m. But not until Autumn - it's too hot to work up on the roof - and in the evenings I'm too busy relaxing on the verandah with a glass or two of raki.:) When I get some results I'll post here again. Thermal noise? Makes sense.. now shall I spend my time devising a reflective shield for the LNB or shall I go for a swim? Now there's a difficult choice :D
 
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Somewhere i have seen a fridge for the LNB, so it doesn't get hot at all, a reflective shield is also a good idea. When you set up your 1.80m please let us know how good you can receive the weaker frequencies there.
 
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Interesting although i don't understand a word. Since they speak of 2.40m and 3m dishes am i right to believe that these sizes make sure the permanent reception of all 13E transponders there ?
 
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