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Message: <blockquote data-quote="haga" data-source="post: 19445" data-attributes="member: 175834">@Gizmo2000, I've read your post a couple of times and it seems you think that buying a cam is all you need, you need the cam(s) for the different encryptions but, you wont get any thing without a programmed card!With all the money you have spent buying these cams you would have been better off buying a mm as Rolf said, You need a programmer, a fun card (at least) and some 6-1 files (found in variuos places around the net) the programming part is fairly straight forward, once you have it we will help with any queries you have, you can then get most stuff on Hispat and all other sats,Your given hobby starts here mate!haga</blockquote>