Lost Rai 1, 2 and 3 channels

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Hi there,
I have a Labgear satellite receiver with a 60cms dish pointed at the Hotbird satellite.
I use it mainly for the Italian Rai channels.
I also get BBC World.
Access to the Rai channels has been intermittent and now I just can't receive RAI at all. But I can get RAI Gulp (Kids' channel) and BBC World News.

I just get a message saying NO SIGNAL
The RAI channels are tuned to Hotbird 6,7 10992 V 27500

Would anyone know what may be wrong? The dish can't have moved because I receive the other channels- right?

Any ideas?

Thanks
Peter
 

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I suspect the Labgear rx doesn't support Nagra.
Just to check if he gets a signa, if the receiver is HD.

Just checked 10992 V 27500 and I get the channels, although the signal seems slightly lower, than others.
Can you please post your signal quality readings, for the channels you do get.
 

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and 11766 is encrypted any way!!
Even if a channel is encrypted you can still scan them in and check the signal quality readings.
The original poster has a 60cm dish, which should be large enough, for 13E, providing it is aligned correctly, and there are no problems with the LNB, or cabling.
When you have a signal failure you first check the signal quality levels, on other channels, to see if the dish has moved, next you check both polarities, Horizontal, and Vertical, to see if both are working.
If one polarity isn't working it's generally a LNB failure, but could be a receiver problem.
 
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#9
sure of course ,and the italians have the "multi-stream" system...
at least the hotbird sd is really fta except the few US imports they show..
which are anyway similar to ours in France germany... a good system whereby they share their home grown stuff and encrypt the useless stuff
 
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#10
Hi there,
I have a Labgear satellite receiver with a 60cms dish pointed at the Hotbird satellite.
I use it mainly for the Italian Rai channels.
I also get BBC World.
Access to the Rai channels has been intermittent and now I just can't receive RAI at all. But I can get RAI Gulp (Kids' channel) and BBC World News.

I just get a message saying NO SIGNAL
The RAI channels are tuned to Hotbird 6,7 10992 V 27500

Would anyone know what may be wrong? The dish can't have moved because I receive the other channels- right?

Any ideas?

Thanks
Peter
I'm using a 110 cm Triax for Hotbird reception. The transponder (10992 V) used for RAI 1,2 3 SD varies quite a lot in strength at my place too. Sometimes it comes in at around 16 dB but other times below 14 dB. On a small dish this could be the difference between picture and no picture.
 
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#11
Hi everyone, sorry not been back since my original post- been away.
Thanks for your messages but much of what you're saying is way beyond my technical understanding.
My dish is actually oblong shaped, being about 60cms wide but taller- maybe 70cm or 80 cms tall.
Anyway, the 3 RAI channels returned and I've been watching them the last 2 days but this evening, I lost RAI 1 and RAI2, but RAI3 is still on.....
I've attached some pictures to show the signal strength/quality which is over 80%.
I don't understand how no video signal when the quality is so high?
Anyway, here are some pics.
Regards and thanks
Pete 20180910_211234.jpg 20180910_211234.jpg 20180910_211241 (1).jpg 20180809_204622_001.jpg 20180811_114916.jpg
 

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#12
Delete the main RAI channels & rescan that frequency. The video pids (identifiers) from the missing ones have probably changed at some point. Some receivers will track the changes - some dont.
 
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#13
Rai encrypts foreign films,sport and disney stuff...
so,when sthg non-Italian is on air,they encrypt it..
.and when the prog ends it s FTA again.
They have been doing this for years,saves them to pay Disney & Hollywood international rights.
So,Rai storia and Rai Scuola are always FTA because they show only Italian produce.
 
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