you keep telling people they wont find the keys here, I dont think thats very helpful at all, why dont you just say it is illegal to post the keys & the site will get shut down, or even say we are not allowed to post keys but here is a link were you will find them, or are you all morons who like to see people frustrated an sit laughing to ya sad selfs? beleive me people if i knew i would tell you all & b*llocks to the consequences but thats me, I'm sad to say other are not like me thats why the morons wont tell me were they are either its priviliged info for the f*ckas who charge £20/£30 a time for reprogramming, its cheaper to pay your sky subscriptions, or you can just carry on wasting ya time here in these forums as you wont learn anything they dont do an idiots guide to programming, its just for the sad tefal heads whom like to wind people up saying we cant post the keys they are out their dig deeper, i've been digging deep for 3 yrs & have found nothing out except waste a load of money I could of used to pay for sky subscription, £500 for a humax 5400z with matrix cam & titanium card & motorised dish, only to find I have to spend another £20 /£30 every mth or so to have cam an card reprogrammed, its a bigger con than sky, out will come the trusty old sledge hammer & i'll smash the lot to peices,as i couldnt sell it on to another poor unsuspecting person & con them it aint right ( I have morals unlike some) I'll stick to buying copied dvds its cheaper a lot cheaper