Nearly There, couple of things

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Nearly there.....nearly..........
Got my dish and motor at my chosen sat, but if you can look at
these pics it seems to go way off line when i scan for more sats..
and i cant find them..

The 1st pic is at 5w

2nd-my signal

3rd..53e.................towards ground near enough

what are the figures in brackets...the minus 4 ?
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Map information Postcode district: G69 0
Grid ref: NS696713
Lat: 55:55:04N (55.91765)
Lon: 4:05:11W (-4.08648)
 

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mapex said:
what are the figures in brackets...the minus 4 ?
Map information
Map information Postcode district: G69 0
Grid ref: NS696713
Lat: 55:55:04N (55.91765)
Lon: 4:05:11W (-4.08648)

Well I can only assume they are the decimal equivalent of the latitude and longitude as opposed to degrees and minutes, also the - sign indicates West of South, it is just another way of expressing 4:05:11W
 

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Right........how does my pics look ? with my dish being
strong on 5w should that not be it, is it a setting i am
missing ?
 

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mapex said:
Right........how does my pics look ? with my dish being
strong on 5w should that not be it, is it a setting i am
missing ?



Assuming that you actually sent the dish to 5W before adjusting the dish/motor to get that signal, and that is the maximum you could get then YES you should be all done.

AND As long as the latitude on your motor is set to 55 and your pole is vertical.

Can you get any other satellites?

Your elevation angle for 53E is only about 10 degrees, are you sure that house opposite is not blocking your signal?
 

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I admit i never sent the dish to 5w, as it was pointing to 13e i
moved the motor and dish manualy till i got the signal, got it
good quality the set it.
It'a not picking up other sats straight away in usuals, i need
to send the dish then i need to come out of usuals and tweak
the signal that way, get a good signal, save then it seems to
loss it when i check it later.
You said Rob--Assuming that you actually sent the dish to 5W before adjusting the dish/motor --would doing this manualy not be the same thing or even better.
As in move the dish and motor to get the signal not send it 1st, i thought if
i send it 1st then the motors off 0.
Can you not get a good signal on 5w and still be of the arc when you sweep.
The house opp ?....you got me thinking, i did think about it and looked at all
the sky dishes in the area, my sky dish is lower but a few feet back. And as its
getting a strong signal there and was getting a strong signal at 13e i assumed
it was ok.
I wanted it higher and it could go higher but i dont have the ladder, the nerve
to mess about at the top of my roof.
I looked at the obsatcles in sat antenna software, you put the distance to it and
the height it gives you an elevation angle.......but from then i dont understand.
If it's , well not if it is set right and i'm def clear to the west but it's not finding
even these straight off....i looked at a word doc--Aligning motorised dish to arc of satellites--and on the doc it's got diagrams
The Elevation is too high
The Elevation is too Low
North/South axis too far East
North/South axis too far West
Could any of these be the problem...
I'm thinking now--Mark why did you even try this--lol...but i did and thats it.
 

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I'm having trouble working out what you have actually done now.

When aligning the dish for a motorized setup, the motor body itself must end up pointing exactly at true south.

This is achieved by MOTORISING the dish to your nearest due south satellite (in your case 5W), and then swivelling the motor round the pole, and wiggleing the dish up and down to get the maximum signal off that sat. ( and in the centre of the beam)

The end result being that the motor is pointing at true south, as you have used a satellite as a reference.

I say use USALS to send the dish to 5W as this is the easiest way. Honestly, once you have done this and got your pole vertical and the motor elevation correct, you won't be far off the mark.

Well its worked every time for me anyway, and I have just had to do a few tweaks here and there to track the arc and get all the satellites possible on it optimally. That is where the last bit of your post may come in handy, but I have never had to worry it, it has always worked for me without having to get too technical.
 

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Hold that result--it,s picking up28E, 26E,23E,19E and 5W...west seems to be a problem....

the way
i done it the motor and dish ended up at 5w, i should have pointed the dish and motor to due south
then moved the dish to 5w meaning the motors still on direct south...correct and if so now i have to
move the motor and dish to south then move the dish only to 5 w so as the motors on south and the dish
is on 5w..........how many inches app is 5 degrees.


WHAT can i say.....dealing with a novice you are so kind
 

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mapex said:
Hold that result--it,s picking up28E, 26E,23E,19E and 5W...west seems to be a problem....


move the motor and dish to south then move the dish only to 5 w so as the motors on south and the dish
is on 5w..........how many inches app is 5 degrees.


WHAT can i say.....dealing with a novice you are so kind
No problem. :)

But I think you have got the idea, the motor body pointing south, but the rotor turned so that the dish faces 5W( the angle on the motor will read something like 1 degree west, or anticlockwise looking from below)

"how many inches app is 5 degrees?"

Well it depends where you are measuring it. On a 2 inch diameter pole its going to be 0.09 of an inch, or in sensible units about 2.2mm. I.e the motor would need to swivel round the pole by 2.2mm approx, not very much!
 

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Hope this does not confuse! I set up a motor last weekend and it
seems reasonably OK. My learning curve included:
- You have to set an angle on BOTH the motor and dish brackets.
- After connecting to Hotbird I adjusted the dish elevation manually
for a stronger signal quality.
- The motor itself has to point due south. I did this with a pole, a spirit
level and the sun at 12 noon (may not apply in Scotland!)
- USALS never seemed to get me close enough so I used DiSeq working
my way from one satellite to another.
- The default transponders on an oldish receiver seemed out of date so
I put in up to date ones from Lyngsat.

Let us know how you get on!

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Well i thought i'd better get my ass back here to
say a big THANKYOU....all is well, all is working
and i'm happy.


To all for the invaluable advice.......thanks

Mark

I know i know some of my questions were...ahh well..

TA
 

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Congratulations :-clap
It is very satisfying when you get it setup yourself and working well.
Have fun with it!
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