[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 11-Jan-01 AT 08:16 PM (GMT)[/font][p]Strange comparison...
The Nokia 9800 has no analogue and no built-in positioner. The Echostar ad3000ipva does. So you are comparing apples with pears.
If you require analogue and a built in positioner then the Nokia will simply not do the job (however good it is as a machine)
On the other hand, if you don't require those features, why pay for them in the ad3000ipva? There is a perfectly good digital CI viaccess Echostar receiver without the analogue & positioner - it is the "DSB-2110 2Ci Viaccess" (in fact, it even has 2 CI slots compared to Nokia's single slot).