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It is a shame about the Advanced Blind Scan as the Linux is capable of so much more then Non Linux,
But the software writers do not have this on their agenda,:eek:

Maybe time for someone to start a new venture in enthusiast satellite receivers that will equally appeal to Joe Public with Multi Steam,4K DVB-SX2 & UHD, Detailed Blind Scan + 4:2:2 they would fly off the shelves :D

All it takes when a good receiver is released are some excellent reviews that everyone can understand (I should know as I used to along with other enthusiasts write the reviews) something that is sorely missing with the current batch of Linux.o_O


Perhaps they think the tbs 6983 etc does the same job, so they think it isn't needed.
 

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It was promised, but like Most E2 receivers never materialises...

He had to finish implementing the program KODI, and after dealing with the Blindscan.
The development of KODI is almost over, we confirm my at Octagon that now the engineers will work on the blindscan.

MCelliotG said:
Thanks Stephan, this almost confirms that all MIS parameters are stored in the firmware and the newest Hellassat NURTS package is not yet implemented.

There are two possibilities with the SX88 Blindscan.
The first without research of MIS:
Hispasat 47 transponders found in 5'55 '
the second with the research of MIS : Hispasat 49 transponders found in 16'07 '.
He found 2 frequencies with the Multistreams, but to need three times as long to find 2 transponders including the parameter would be in memory, I think it's very long , to long.
Perhaps that it really searches multistreams and parameters

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In my estimation the codes/modes are stored per satellite. Yes, perhaps it searches something but the PLS modes/codes range is way too big to be searched in a rational amount of time. Take for example a professional TBS card, can you imagine how long it takes to blind scan full a PLS range in just one mode? And we are talking about powerful PCs not a slow to middle range processor...

You can test something:
Align your dish on a MIS satellite such as 5W, but search another satellite, such as hotbird with a MIS enabled blindscan. If indeed it finds the MIS channels of 5W again, then perhaps they have something we don't know.

And since the receiver is supposed to be opensource, maybe it's time some things could be ported in Enigma2 too....
 

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It is a shame about the Advanced Blind Scan as the Linux is capable of so much more then Non Linux,
But the software writers do not have this on their agenda,:eek:

Maybe time for someone to start a new venture in enthusiast satellite receivers that will equally appeal to Joe Public with Multi Steam,4K DVB-SX2 & UHD, Detailed Blind Scan + 4:2:2 they would fly off the shelves :D

All it takes when a good receiver is released are some excellent reviews that everyone can understand (I should know as I used to along with other enthusiasts write the reviews) something that is sorely missing with the current batch of Linux.o_O
As you said it yourself, more people need to really work on these features and it is POSSIBLE for enigma2 to support all of them, except 4:2:2. This is purely hardware based and it will never happen in the present hardware, even as a software decoding in real time. It's not even an Enigma2 problem, the chipsets have to decode 4:2:2. Azboxes have no problem with Enigma2 on them!
However the main issue is that all these implementations that happened until today (Multistream, T2-MI etc) were only because some people became interested to do so, and since it's a hobby and no one profits from that, the development will halt at some point. You see the manufacturers have to help too, and until today nobody did absolutely anything to help developers make things happen, by providing drivers and support. They are only interested to sell their boxes using ready patches and work of others. Is that fair?
I live for the day that a manufacturer will take DXers seriously and provide a top notch STB that has absolutely everything and full support from both sides. Unfortunately we are a minority...
 

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As channels clearing via a patch is on the decline due to changes in encryption systems most independent receivers will become just be glorified FreeSat boxes as pared boxes to cards will become the norm sooner than you think,

So the satellite box manufacturer had better pull their fingers out if they want to continue selling Independent receivers as the logical way forward is to produce an STB that will appeal to all & that does include a proper Blind Scan 4:2:2 & 16APSK ect.

My AZBox P+ was only missing MPEG-4 if it had had that with the current 4:2:2 on board it would have had a longer shelf life.
 

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You can test something:
Align your dish on a MIS satellite such as 5W, but search another satellite, such as hotbird with a MIS enabled blindscan. If indeed it finds the MIS channels of 5W again, then perhaps they have something we don't know.
I have just made a blindscan with research of MIS on EXPRESS AM 8 14°WEST. by being positioned on 5°West
it finds Multistreams well.fals1.jpg fals2.jpg fals3.jpg
 

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Very good, maybe we are missing something here. So why can't it find NURTS on 39E?
On some PC programs you can set a number of PLS modes/codes to be scanned while blindscanning a satellite position. Then the blindscanner scans each step frequency without the PLS parameters and then with them. Perhaps this is the case here too, they have stored these modes/codes regardless of satellite position, so they get scanned with every blindscan. This should also explain the delay in blindscanning with MIS support enabled to rational times.
 

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I compared the sensitivity of the Tuner of the SX88 with the tuner of the Octagon SF4008 4 K E2 UHD, which is the most sensitive I know.
On Badr6 12182: DVB-S 16200 frequency very difficult to receive.
the successful SX88 has see this frequency and find the program, the picture is very bad but it is there.
Of course the 4008 is in front.
I am amazed that the SX88 is successful to get a picture. sx88 e-vert.jpg sf4008 a-vert.jpg
 

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So Stephan what you are saying is the Octagon SF4008 is the most sensitive receiver. More expensive to buy. It does Multistream but for now has no blindsearch
 

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I compared the sensitivity of the Tuner of the SX88 with the tuner of the Octagon SF4008 4 K E2 UHD, which is the most sensitive I know.
On Badr6 12182: DVB-S 16200 frequency very difficult to receive.
the successful SX88 has see this frequency and find the program, the picture is very bad but it is there.
Of course the 4008 is in front.
I am amazed that the SX88 is successful to get a picture. View attachment 109932 View attachment 109933

So where were you when you carried out this trial ? Bavaria or Paris.
 

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I wouldn't be so surprised if both receivers use the a Silabs tuner... ;)
 

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I compared the sensitivity of the Tuner of the SX88 with the tuner of the Octagon SF4008 4 K E2 UHD, which is the most sensitive I know.
On Badr6 12182: DVB-S 16200 frequency very difficult to receive.
the successful SX88 has see this frequency and find the program, the picture is very bad but it is there.
Of course the 4008 is in front.
I am amazed that the SX88 is successful to get a picture. View attachment 109932 View attachment 109933

I was surprised how weak your signal was on Yemen as you are much further south than me & presumably using a 120 cm dish,

Here is my signal with a 100cm dish on a TM5502HD + Inverto Black Ultra no break up of the signal at all.

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The break up of picture maybe down to the receiver overheating...
 

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Yesterday it was very hot in Paris (34 ° C) that is not good for the reception of weak channels.

Sometimes the beams are very surprising, especially when you are outside of these beams.
 

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12182H 16200 is on Badr 4 not 6 according to Lyngsat and Flysat. So I would have thought there should be no break up all even it hot weather? Please correct me if I am wrong.
Does the receiver suffer from overheating?
I would have thought for a sensitive receiver it should receive this no problem...
 

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Maybe your dish is out of alignment ?
 

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Octagon suffer from overheating. Small receiver and no ventilation...
 

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the problem that arises:
My band LNB C hides a bit of vision LNB KU Band.
 

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Hallo

Hispasat on the multistream 11491V 7522 again changed PLS, it took over the former: 7522 combo.
the SX88 found with BlindScan.
Unfortunately, it takes a lot of power to be able to see the programs and Bavaria
with very poor weather it is not possible to see them.
omly the frequencyHipsasat.jpg 005.JPG
 
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