bobbywise
Member
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2009
- Messages
- 45
- Reaction score
- 4
- Points
- 8
- Age
- 52
- Location
- Nantes
- Website
- www.robertwisbey.net
- My Satellite Setup
- Humax Foxsat HDR, Fracarro Penta Digit 68cm Dish at 28e, unbranded 60cm dish at 9e/13e/19e, EMP Centauri S8/1PCP-W2 switch emulating diseqc motor
- My Location
- Nantes, France
Hi there,
I live in Nantes, and have recently installed a Digit 68 CM Penta dish on a motor (upgraded from an oval 60 x 50 optex dish).
I'm pretty much a newbie, but after all the research on the Internet with Dishpointer for true south, Gaaps calculator for motor angle relative to my long/lat, etc ., found it easy to install the dish. I based my initial positioning on Astra 28E, with the motor offset to the angle corresponding to my long/lat.
Here is a list of Sats, with Signal Quality (resolution is only on a 10% granularity level as the Foxsat HDR doesn't show 1% granularity like other STBs):
- 30W 12456V (30,000) - 100%
- 12.5W 12545H (27,500) - 90%
- 8W 10972H (27,500) - 90% to 100%
- 5W 10973V (9000) - 90% to 100%
- 1W 11325H - 90%
- 0.8W forget TPs - 90% - 100%
- 7e 11395 (27,500) - 100%, 11678H (3000) - 80%
- 9e 11823 H - 100%
-10e 11175 - 60% (many weak TPs on this Sat)
-13e typically a weak TP like 12322H (27,500) - 100%
-16e strong TPs 90%, weaker TPs like 11046 (10555) 60% and 10957H (2821) 60%
19e typically a weak YP like 12480V (27,500) - 100%
23.5e typically a weak TP like 10862H (22,000) - 100% (I don't get any TPs on German beam, but this is normal as a 90 cm dish required for my location)
28.2/5e typically a weak TP like 12643V (27,000) - 90% (others 100%)
My problem lies with the following Satellites:
26E - I can only get 12523H (27,500) with 40%, although luckily it doesn't tend to break up. Other frequencies are not available or some of the 12xxx ones are around 30% and drop out. I notice on another post, someone put plastic to raise the lower end of the dish for 26E.
39E - Nothing at all. This is my big concern as according to Dishpointer and other resources, I should get this easily with a 50 cm dish.
40E - Nothing at all. This is also a concern as a according to Dishpointer and other resources, I should get this easily with a 60 cm dish.
On 39E and 40E, I've tried searching on the strong TPs (listed elsewhere in this forum), and moved the dish in "step" mode to "fine tune" find these satellites, but never find them.
Any ideas as to why I cannot find the 39E and 40E satellites ?
I do have a constant array of trees in the entire range where the dish moves, but I am confident they are far enough away not to be in the line of sight for 39E and 40E.
I am wondering whether because the dish is slightly up the pole to pass the chimney, it is tilted slightly lower than needed for 39E and 40E and not perfectly on the "clark belt" arc. However, I think this is unlikely because all other satellites quoted above come in very well as expected. So surely if the dish was slightly to low for 39E and 40E, it would also be for all the other satellites, and this does not seem to be the case.
Do any of you experienced gurus have known examples where all expected satellites come in perfectly as expected, except 39E and 40E ?
Also, I noticed in another posting that someone said the offset on their Penta dish was different to the one they were replacing, and had to lower it by 10°. I have just set the tilt of my dish to 22.8° which is what GAAPS calculator suggests for my location and my motor type. I doubt the tilt of my dish is wrong though, as I am getting all other satellites as expected, but what do other people think ?
Finally, I have the Fracarro 0.5 dB single LNB. I am wondering whether if I get an Inverto 0.2 db single LNB, will it improve my reception on the "borderline" 30% weak TPs that are breaking up on 26E ?
Thanks for all your feedback.
I'll post the layout of the trees in the next couple of days (I am in Paris tonight, returning home tomorrow !).
With Well Wishes,
Rob
I live in Nantes, and have recently installed a Digit 68 CM Penta dish on a motor (upgraded from an oval 60 x 50 optex dish).
I'm pretty much a newbie, but after all the research on the Internet with Dishpointer for true south, Gaaps calculator for motor angle relative to my long/lat, etc ., found it easy to install the dish. I based my initial positioning on Astra 28E, with the motor offset to the angle corresponding to my long/lat.
Here is a list of Sats, with Signal Quality (resolution is only on a 10% granularity level as the Foxsat HDR doesn't show 1% granularity like other STBs):
- 30W 12456V (30,000) - 100%
- 12.5W 12545H (27,500) - 90%
- 8W 10972H (27,500) - 90% to 100%
- 5W 10973V (9000) - 90% to 100%
- 1W 11325H - 90%
- 0.8W forget TPs - 90% - 100%
- 7e 11395 (27,500) - 100%, 11678H (3000) - 80%
- 9e 11823 H - 100%
-10e 11175 - 60% (many weak TPs on this Sat)
-13e typically a weak TP like 12322H (27,500) - 100%
-16e strong TPs 90%, weaker TPs like 11046 (10555) 60% and 10957H (2821) 60%
19e typically a weak YP like 12480V (27,500) - 100%
23.5e typically a weak TP like 10862H (22,000) - 100% (I don't get any TPs on German beam, but this is normal as a 90 cm dish required for my location)
28.2/5e typically a weak TP like 12643V (27,000) - 90% (others 100%)
My problem lies with the following Satellites:
26E - I can only get 12523H (27,500) with 40%, although luckily it doesn't tend to break up. Other frequencies are not available or some of the 12xxx ones are around 30% and drop out. I notice on another post, someone put plastic to raise the lower end of the dish for 26E.
39E - Nothing at all. This is my big concern as according to Dishpointer and other resources, I should get this easily with a 50 cm dish.
40E - Nothing at all. This is also a concern as a according to Dishpointer and other resources, I should get this easily with a 60 cm dish.
On 39E and 40E, I've tried searching on the strong TPs (listed elsewhere in this forum), and moved the dish in "step" mode to "fine tune" find these satellites, but never find them.
Any ideas as to why I cannot find the 39E and 40E satellites ?
I do have a constant array of trees in the entire range where the dish moves, but I am confident they are far enough away not to be in the line of sight for 39E and 40E.
I am wondering whether because the dish is slightly up the pole to pass the chimney, it is tilted slightly lower than needed for 39E and 40E and not perfectly on the "clark belt" arc. However, I think this is unlikely because all other satellites quoted above come in very well as expected. So surely if the dish was slightly to low for 39E and 40E, it would also be for all the other satellites, and this does not seem to be the case.
Do any of you experienced gurus have known examples where all expected satellites come in perfectly as expected, except 39E and 40E ?
Also, I noticed in another posting that someone said the offset on their Penta dish was different to the one they were replacing, and had to lower it by 10°. I have just set the tilt of my dish to 22.8° which is what GAAPS calculator suggests for my location and my motor type. I doubt the tilt of my dish is wrong though, as I am getting all other satellites as expected, but what do other people think ?
Finally, I have the Fracarro 0.5 dB single LNB. I am wondering whether if I get an Inverto 0.2 db single LNB, will it improve my reception on the "borderline" 30% weak TPs that are breaking up on 26E ?
Thanks for all your feedback.
I'll post the layout of the trees in the next couple of days (I am in Paris tonight, returning home tomorrow !).
With Well Wishes,
Rob