Just Sharing This Sky to offer satellite TV without a dish from 2018

[Lazarus]

okay the point of this topic is that sky is offering another service for people who cant get dish but they will still supply their dish for people who can

Oddly enough, I knew that ..... It was I who started the Thread

And it was you who asked the question "but what if ..... "

 

[Archive-8]

Oddly enough, I knew that ..... It was I who started the Thread

Perhaps you should have started the thread with

"Listen very carefully, I shall only say this once"

 

[Lazarus]

Perhaps you should have started the thread with

"Listen very carefully, I shall only say this once"

Quite

 

[blademedia]

Its mainly aimed at people overseas, reported here
Sky to start net TV war with push into Spain

 

[Analoguesat]

There is no chance whatsoever of Sky turning the satellite signals off for at least 15- 20 years. The broadband infrastructure for a lot of the UK is still basically crap - and will be even when the mandated 10meg (woooh!) minimum service obligation starts kicking in at the end of the decade. I live 2 miles from the local town & we get just over 2 meg broadband, with no wireless or cable alternative (The nearest cable service is 25 miles away!)

This sort of lousy broadband service is in no way unusual in the UK, where fttp connections are almost unheard of.

 

[skomedal]

Totally agree with rural ADSL+ broadband with ancient copper wires is "" crap "" and unreliable, especially if your the end user on a long stretch from the local exchange.

Mine varies from 1.9 - 2.5 down just enough to do basic streaming and often drops out, so have a wireless backup router with 2GB/ month use,, just in case ( costs a fortune for this backup and not used for streaming ).

Bit of topic as live in rural norway ( but sympathise with other members in same situ. )

Regards

 

[Tony1A]

I cannot see satellites becoming redundant ever!!!

 

[sat-tv-fan]

I've cancelled sly anyway...my freesat+ pvr does what I need more than adequately

 

[sat-tv-fan]

I cannot see satellites becoming redundant ever!!!

Absolutely.. broadcasters need thme of couese though more OB's are using the internet these days

 

[kevjs]

With Astra 2F et al due to last for at least another 10 years satellite will be safe for that - but after that will it really be worth the investment for yet another 15 years for Astra 2H, 2I, and 2J? Time will tell of course, but if FTTP(ole) is widespread by then perhaps not.

In any case we've already seen Sky Box Office migrate from a satellite to OTT, and it wouldn't surprise me to see some of the more niche services moving that way too - e.g. the "popup" red button streams for live sport being delivered OTT alongside the traditional broadcast channels.

Around the same time 5G technology will be rolled out, and 4G is already at 100mpbs plus in some Australian cities so it's not like ADSL will be the only option...

 

[Analoguesat]

Ive removed all the off topic / pointless posts & their direct responses.

Please try to keep the threads roughly on topic - if folks persist on trying to take topics miles off topic steps will be taken.....

 

[Pride Of Cucamonga]

With Astra 2F et al due to last for at least another 10 years satellite will be safe for that - but after that will it really be worth the investment for yet another 15 years for Astra 2H, 2I, and 2J? Time will tell of course, but if FTTP(ole) is widespread by then perhaps not.

In any case we've already seen Sky Box Office migrate from a satellite to OTT, and it wouldn't surprise me to see some of the more niche services moving that way too - e.g. the "popup" red button streams for live sport being delivered OTT alongside the traditional broadcast channels.

Around the same time 5G technology will be rolled out, and 4G is already at 100mpbs plus in some Australian cities so it's not like ADSL will be the only option...

Agree 10 years is probably about right for Sky abandoning satellite. Freesat in some form will probably continue for several decades and outlive DTT.

 

[Analoguesat]

This is an interesting report - worldwide channel growth of over 12000 new services by 2026.

Satellite market to see strong channel growth in next 10 years

Satellite has a long term future even in Europe.

 

[Lazarus]

Excellent

 

[Pride Of Cucamonga]

This is an interesting report - worldwide channel growth of over 12000 new services by 2026.

Satellite market to see strong channel growth in next 10 years

Satellite has a long term future even in Europe.

No bias here! Thing is, channels are almost irrelevant for under 30s. Sky could have 8 million channels and they still wouldn't watch them. It's fully on demand or nothing and satellite can never provide that.

 

[Channel Hopper]

No bias here! Thing is, channels are almost irrelevant for under 30s. Sky could have 8 million channels and they still wouldn't watch them. It's fully on demand or nothing and satellite can never provide that.

The report does not mention Sky, the UK or even Europe.

So the uptake is a global increase, roughly a 35% increase of content over the next nine years. Seems about right with the lineup of communications satellites being specified, built and taken to launchpads.

As long as it isn't +1/+2 programming, or tarot reading it should be interesting.

 

[Pride Of Cucamonga]

The thread is about Sky in the UK and I'm only talking about a pay satellite switch off that coincides with 28.2 satellites being retired . Other markets will be different of course, but UK's reliance on copper broadband (not defending as think foolish long term) means superfast coverage already at 90%+. By 2030 it will likely be 99%+ with 5G etc. Why would Sky stick with expensive dual broadcasting just to reach the last 1%?

 

[Channel Hopper]

You referenced the report from Ross, which is about the channel number expectations globally

28.2 does not cater for the UK alone, similar to the earlier orbital slot for Sky services. If they leave then there will be plenty of others wishing to use the capacity.


Lastly broadcasting services from space is no longer a 'huge' expense. The other major European satellite provider Eutelsat has confirmed for a couple of years that their capacity has dropped to approximately 1% of the price when DVB services commenced. I doubt SES is charging much more, if at all.

 

[John Pykett]

on topic with this, a sky expert on live support chat confirmed to me yesterday that sky will carry on broadcasting over satellite even if they launch a tv over internet service.

 

[Lazarus]

Ah, an Expert.