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Spanish TV - what CAM ? what is PowerVu?

anton

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A while ago there was info that Spanish TV (the domestic terrestrial channels such as tve1, tve2 etc..) would be avilable via satellite in 2007

I can see them listed now (lyngsat) on Hispasat 30w with encryption
called PowerVu

Can anybody advise what sort of dedicated receiver (or what CAM) should I be looking to get to be able to receive this ?

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You dont. Its an ultra secure professional system for broadcasters and cable head ends which uses dedicated individually addressable receivers from scientific atlanta.

Find another way of getting your channels as theres is no way you will be watching the PowerVu stuff.
 

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A smartcard is not required in PowerVU encryption. The owner of the receiver sends the serial number (and another 1-2 numbers of the receiver) to the operator. The operator authorizes the receiver, not a smartcard.
 

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.. thanks analogueasat and tesla

... so it is then a dedicated receiver with built-in decryption 'thingy'

..something like a skybox then ?
presumably not very versatile (with no empty slots for more CAMs) , not usable for anything else but to receive the few channels it is meant to receive (plus maybe any FTA)

fine by me if it is so...
but how do you go about getting such receiver,
- is it available over the counter in Spain?
- do I need to get a Spanish (TV licence paying) resident to get it for me ?
costs? any limitations/ activation hitches

It would be great if somebody who has got this could advise how it works
 

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You will often find that the channels encrypted in Powervu are not destined for the general populace directly from satellite, but supplied for re-transmission by cable, satellite and terrestrial broadcasters using more conventional receivers.

In other words, you may not be able to acquire one of the receivers for these particular channels.
 

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anton said:
.. thanks analogueasat and tesla


fine by me if it is so...
but how do you go about getting such receiver,
- is it available over the counter in Spain?
- do I need to get a Spanish (TV licence paying) resident to get it for me ?
costs? any limitations/ activation hitches
You dont get a receiver.
1) most definitely not
2) not available to anyone apart from authorised broadcasters.
3) the receiver has to be authorised by Scientific Atlanta and theres is no way they will activate one for anyone apart from an authorised user.
 

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Most of the Spanish terrestrial channels are part of the Digital+ package on 30W and 19E so investigate that avenue instead.
 

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I have now dug up the article (in Spanish) where Spanish Television were announcing the plan to make their channels available to people VIA SATELLITE as of January 2007

’el próximo mes de enero todos los ciudadanos que residan en territorio español podrán acceder libre y gratuitamente a esos contenidos vía satelite ‘


It also says that one would only need to buy a DECODER (descodificador) costing around 100 EUR to get access to the contents.

I was hoping this would all be analogous to skybox and a card for freeview of Channel4 and Five (though may it be in this case a cardless box)

If it is a rebroadcast system, that would be fine – means I just need to get the box to which they will ‘rebroadcast to’
As long as the rebroadcasting is done via satellite and on a wide enough beam (rolfw, you mention satellite as one of the re-transmission options)

Probably only somebody who has got this and happens to be reading this forum can confirm if the system is now up and running as planned and if indeed it is a rebroadcast

(I would still rather investigate into this first before looking into Digital+ package, you see analoguesat, when you get a package that usually means A LOT OF CHANNELS and one only has so much time to watch :)
 

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I dont recall seeing any news that its actually started, maybe one of our members who lives in Spain would be able to give us more info.
 

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TVE1 / 2 etc is available on Digital Terrestrial in Spain & The Canaries. 21 Channels at the moment. Maybe this is what was in the article.
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digital terrestrial will not help me, that's why I was hoping for direct to home satellite.

I paste the complete article below.
As I understood it it WAS going to be available via satellite.
Basically this was to ensure that by 2010 (when the analogue switchoff is planned) nobody was left without acces to the national TVE, as by that year the coverage of Digital Terestrial would still not be 100%.
Satellite was going to be the (at least short term) solution.

Televisión Española ha decidido que no va a esperar a 2010, año previsto para el apagón analógico, para que todos los espectadores puedan ver los programas que se producen hoy para sus canales de Televisión Digital Terrestre (TDT)
Si prospera el plan que está madurando la dirección de la empresa pública, el próximo mes de enero todos los ciudadanos que residan en territorio español podrán acceder libre y gratuitamente a esos contenidos vía satélite.
La cadena pública celebrará su estreno como Corporación en enero de 2007 con el lanzamiento de una plataforma que distribuirá íntegramente los contenidos de TVE, a través de los satélites Hispasat y Eutelsat, con los que ya ha negociado una ampliación del contrato actual. Los canales digitales privados que se quieran sumar a esa plataforma tienen el camino abierto. Al menos esa es la intención inicial de RTVE.
En cuanto a los ciudadanos, sólo necesitarán comprar un descodificador que cuesta alrededor de 100 euros para acceder a esos contenidos.
Aunque pueda parecerlo, esta iniciativa no sustituye ni retrasará la implantación de la TDT en nuestro país. Lo que se pretende con ella es, por el contrario, "asegurar la rápida penetración del sistema digital terrestre" y garantizar que cuando se produzca el apagón analógico en abril de 2010, ningún ciudadano residente en España se quede sin poder ver la televisión, explicó a EL MUNDO Eladio Gutiérrez, director de RTVE Digital.
"Para esa fecha TVE tendrá como mucho una cobertura del 92%, lo que dejaría a más de 800.000 ciudadanos sin señal", añade Gutiérrez. El satélite impedirá que eso ocurra.
Pasará además a segundo plano la polémica sobre si la cobertura actual de la TDT es del 80% o del 85% y sobre el coste que tendrá en tiempo y en dinero que alcance el 92% máximo previsto para el año del apagón analógico. El sistema de transmisión terrestre es un objetivo deseable, pero según los expertos de TVE, no es alcanzable a corto plazo.
"Nosotros pensamos que tenemos que dar cobertura universal y eso se logra si colocas la señal en un satélite. Por ello estamos evaluando poner en marcha rápidamente una plataforma que distribuya todos los programas de TVE y los de los canales que se quieran sumar", explicó el director de RTVE Digital.
 
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Anton,... we get those channels free, here in Spain now, also on rebroadcast on TDT Stb, via a roof ariel.

If you can sort yourself our D+ on 19.2/30W, Tve 1. Tve La 2, and Quatro, are on there, along with the rest.

Hope that helps !? All the best !!
 

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FinalScene said:
Anton,... we get those channels free, here in Spain now, also on rebroadcast on TDT Stb, via a roof ariel.

If you can sort yourself our D+ on 19.2/30W, Tve 1. Tve La 2, and Quatro, are on there, along with the rest.

Hope that helps !? All the best !!
Can you receive Tele 5 free via satellite?

Do you just need to buy a D+ box and plug it in or do you require a viewing card from Digital+?
 

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hi,

you can actualy open the whole spanish DTT Mux (about 30channels)with a skystar2 PCI card and an application called "hispadvb Alpha8" thru hispasat ..check flysat web for details and frequency..cheers
 
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The spanish DTT package that is available via hispasat for people in spain who cannot get the normall DTT signal in remote areas of spain, can now be opened with a Mvision receiver with patches that are available from spanish forums. This the DTT channels listed on flysat
 

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You can get the international service of RTV Espania on Sky - and on numerous other sats

The RTE1 you mention though is Radio Telefis Eiranne (Ireland) not Radio Television Espania - none of the Spanish domestic services are on Sky UK
 

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TVEi Channel 795 is Spanish enough for me! The newsreaders are very
attractive too.....

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