Stricter drink-drive limit comes into force in Scotland

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Good. Let's hope England follows suit.

Two (at least) Drunk Drivers in our very small village, one of whom can't understand why he has a Criminal Conviction.
 

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Good. Let's hope England follows suit.
Two (at least) Drunk Drivers in our very small village, one of whom can't understand why he has a Criminal Conviction.
People like that won't be put off by a (small) change in limits.... France has had a limit of 0.5 for a while; I swear drink-driving is the national sport.
 

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I swear drink-driving is the national sport.

Yes....and they are damned good at it.....

Whilst I don't want to appear a killjoy, I'd fully support a zero tolerance drink drive law.
 

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I tend to agree, Pete, but how far can we go in practice: Morning after syndrome is the indefinable issue.
 

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Morning after syndrome is the indefinable issue.
Indeed. A perfectly responsible ex-colleague was found over the limit the morning after a night out. 18 month ban (12 when taken with an optional AA membership).
 

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Indeed. A perfectly responsible ex-colleague was found over the limit the morning after a night out. 18 month ban (12 when taken with an optional AA membership).
I read that 5 times before I realised that "AA" did not mean "Automobile Association" :)
 

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Personally I'd say an outright zero-tolerance ban would be the best option, you have a drink, you do not drive at all, alcohol gives people a false sense of confidence which has resulted in deaths of either themselves or others, or both...

And as for the morning after, well, alcohol stays in your bloodstream for at least 12 hours, so go out on the razz, have 6 hours of sleep, then hop in the car, you're still over the limit...
 

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We've got 0.5 in Finland too but I think anything lower than 0.2 (used by our neighbours in Sweden and Estonia) is the minimum you can sensibly go down to. With zero tolerance like some Middle East countries you'd need to think twice about using mouthwash before going for a drive...

Random breathalyser tests for all traffic driving down a road are normal in Finland. I'm usually tested once or twice a year and I don't even tend to drive that much since I work from home.
 

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I've only been tested once in 20 odd years of driving, and that was because I'd pinged off the bike (was in a 50km/h zone, respecting the limit, somebody on the left stopped at a stop sign but then pulled out in front of me and I locked up the front brake in braking to avoid him, no major harm done...).

I've been *stopped* 5 times - 4 times in one week in Tunisia (I got the impression that it was more to speak to my wife than because of any rule -breaking :) ) and once in Canada, where the check involved checking my license and asking me (not testing!) if I'd had a drink.
 

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I was watching the BBC News this morning whilst having my breakfast & they had already caught 4 drivers across Scotland overnight......
 

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A lot of people don't see drink driving as anything major, although i'm sure they would see it differently if they killed somebody whilst drunk. Another thing that a lot of people don't know either is that if you have been prosecuted for drunk driving it makes you inadmissible to Canada even as a visitor.

They will just turn you round and put you back on the same plane you just got off. In all honesty though i think it should have been countrywide, not just Scotland that had the lower limit.

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We have a rule in our social group, on a group outing for whatever the designated drivers meals and all non alcoholic drinks are free all day/night as long as he/she does not touch a drink all day/night.

I don't like drinking then driving so I get a lot of free meals.

Party's at my ranch require an overnight bag if you going to be drinking, car keys are deposited with me, I have lots of extra room, and no one has found out where I stash the keys.

Remember, it's always cheaper to take a cab home then pay the drunk driver fines.
 

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In Switzerland if you are the passenger with a valid driving licence and the driver is caught drink driving you also get done. Now that's quite harsh but perhaps puts extra pressure on the driver not to drink.
 

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The big difference between the limit in Scotland, is that if caught driving whilst over the lower limit say in France, the penalties are not immediate removal of licence, but a fine and 6 penalty points, a shot across the bows. I have noticed that in France they seem to be taking it more seriously now, with spot checks mid afternoon, I guess designed to catch the heavy luncher.

Interesting though, on certain occasions like New Year, they appear to have a defacto amnesty, with police nowhere to be seen, unless thaere's an accident.

I won't touch a drink if I'm going to be driving' but think lowering the limit probably won't prevent the persistent offenders, as they'll probably have been driving over the old limit, let alone the new one.

What really concerns me is that there still appears to be no easy testing kit for drug use whilst driving.
 

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Interesting though, on certain occasions like New Year, they appear to have a defacto amnesty, with police nowhere to be seen, unless thaere's an accident.

My wife's a nurse, 2 years ago she had to work nights, police was parked outside the hospital breathalysing people,

I agree with afternoon breathalysing and they should be lots more of it I know of 5/6 people that do it, but if you get caught grassing round here you would regret it, so unfortunately you keep your mouth shut and don't go running around telling tails.
 
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