Strong rumours that some or all UKTV channels coming to Freesat.

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From what I've gleaned from various sources, I think that the most likely scenario is for the SD versions of the UKTV channels currently on Freeview to become available on Freesat as they will go FTA.

It could be that all of the SD versions of the UKTV bouquet go FTA and onto Freesat.

I don't think it's at all likely that the HD variants will go FTA too though.

My main reasons for thinking that this is a real possibility are:

- Reputable sources in the industry have hinted as strongly as they can to me and to others without actually confirming the change.

- UKTV have recently begun technical changes to move their channels to a transponder more tightly focussed on they UK. Their current transponder is encrypted, so it doesn't matter if it spills into Europe for rights reasons.

- Sky are currently reviewing the value of having various channels in the 'Sub Club'; it's widely suspected that this is because of the increased cost of their football rights.

In the past Current TV and Motors TV have been kicked out of it, Current TV closed and Motors TV became free again.

More recently, PSB was kicked out and became FTA and at the same time joined Freesat. Bliss(mas) was abruptly closed a few days ago just after rebranding for Christmas. There are rumours that a further two music Channels are to be kicked out that will either close or become FTA (and join Freesat??)

- UKTV is jointly owned by BBC Worldwide and the BBC in turn are committed to FTA and have a stake in Freesat and Scripps who traditionally only deal in FTA channels eg The Travel Channel.

I think that if this does come to fruition, that it would be the best boost ever for Freesat- which would delight the BBC.

The only channels worth having that Freeview currently has would then be on Freesat, Freesat would have the best FTA offering as it would have everything* that Freeview has to offer and more.

* In the main I think that there would only be 4Music and Quest that most people would need to return to Freeview for. Are there any others?
With Netflix, Freesat PVR's and Freetime VOD I think it could really take off :D[/QUOTE]
 
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Oops looks like autocorrect changed "some" to "something" in the title.
 

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If 'Dave' went FTA, that would be a good boost too.
 

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Freesat Data for UKTV channels | a516digital

Drama, Really and yesterday have now started adding Freesat data.

Curiously Dave is not included, but there have been strong hints that it will go FTA later on, as will the +1 variants.

Quest has now become available online to Irish residents, let's hope that this is a sign that they are opening it up to more viewers and that it too goes FTA.

In addition, someone has pointed out that ITV2 HD, ITV3 HD and ITV4 HD no longer need to be paired to a card and Sky box. I wonder if this is a sign that these channels will go FTA once the Sky deal expires?? I'm not sure if these channels are currently on a UK or European beam.

The tightly focused UK spot beams seem to be good news for UK viewers, if not ex pats living abroad.
 
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I just checked the advised frequency 12129 V and can see the channels with SR 27500, not 22000 as stated. SNR is only 6.2 dB on the motorised 1.2, but 8.9 dB on the 1.8.
Also noticed Dave is there as well, so could suggest it may follow the other three.
 

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Dears,
is this beam working or not?
it is impossible to get in Italy, near Milan.

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Yes its working but its still being dual illuminated on the widebeam as well for the next few days.

At some point the widebeam will be turned off and the 10 channels will become unavailable to you & all other viewers outside the range of the UK spotbeams
 
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I just checked the advised frequency 12129 V and can see the channels with SR 27500, not 22000 as stated. SNR is only 6.2 dB on the motorised 1.2, but 8.9 dB on the 1.8.
Also noticed Dave is there as well, so could suggest it may follow the other three.

Thanks for checking, this adds more weight to the claim that Dave will be going FTA as well. I've also been told that the timeshifted versions of these channels will eventually join Freesat too.

Are they also on the same tight UK spot beam transponder?
 

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Thanks for checking, this adds more weight to the claim that Dave will be going FTA too. I've also been told that the timeshifted versions of these channels will eventually join Freesat too.

Are they on the same tight UK spot beam transponder?

Nope - so either the channels will be swapped around so the fta ones are on the spots or there will be another spot tp illumination for the other frequency (11523H 22000 5/6)
 

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Good news indeed, the amount of Jo public that think the Freesat & Freeview channel line up are the same is unreal, even now, does anybody remember when it was "on the cards" & "any day now.." that Channel 5 HD would join the Freeview spectrum?

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Sorry to disturb again.
But, how much is the signal lower in comparison with BBC/ITV/4/5 transponders?
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how much is the signal lower in comparison with BBC/ITV/4/5 transponders?
Seen from here, 12129 V behaves like other 2e uk's > strong daytime, lower (and weather sensitive) evening.
 

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Sorry to disturb again.
But, how much is the signal lower in comparison with BBC/ITV/4/5 transponders?
thanks
On the 1.2 motorised it is about 2.8 dB lower on the average of the BBC, ITV CH4 and CH5 signals, not checked on the 1.8 but from memory I get about 11.6 dB on the bulk and this was 8.9 dB when I checked yesterday, so similar difference
 

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Its now been confirmed on Joinfreesat that 3 channels (Really Yesterday & Drama) will be fta by the end of the year
 

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Nope - so either the channels will be swapped around so the fta ones are on the spots or there will be another spot tp illumination for the other frequency (11523H 22000 5/6)

Thanks :)
 
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