What satellite is 12421H on?

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I can't believe 12421H is on 2E like it says on certain sites. The pattern does not fit.

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2E according to King-of-Sat, but according to the graph it doesn't look like either.
 

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Olympics 6, at time of writing (dish adjusted to F & G at the detriment of a few db's on E):
12421 H: 6.3 db
10862 H: 13.3 db
12421 shows behaviour like stuff on F uk seen from here, very low levels for some weeks.
 
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OK, time for a sensible response! Are there not data information sheets available from Astra/ bird builders specifying the ability of each bird and which frequencies it can transmit?
 

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OK, time for a sensible response! Are there not data information sheets available from Astra/ bird builders specifying the ability of each bird and which frequencies it can transmit?
Yes but there is lots of overlap/redundancy.
 

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12421 shows behaviour like stuff on F uk seen from here, very low levels for some weeks.
So what other transponders are supposed to be on 2F UK beam so I can compare.
 
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OK, I aint as cleaver as some of you guys out there! All I know, on my 1.8 dish I get most BBC´s, ITV´s etc between 10 and 11 dB.
12421 is varying between 4.5 and 5.5 dB
12129 V is currently 6.2 dB
I do not know if it is down to which bird, which frequency or which side you dress!
All I know is that some higher frequencies are harder to get in my neck of the woods, whichever bird they come from.
 

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Ok, but there is overlap, so how do we tell?
 

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12421H is 2F UK, currently 6.5db. 2E 12129V is "3 clicks" east, 7.0db. Western Finland, 2.4pf.

11739V is listed 2E, but it's 100% 2F europe. at my location 2E europe is 4-5db stronger than 2F europe.
 
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Follows my line of thought.
If someone with a motorised ( or fixed for that matter ) lined up on a known 2e transponder to max signal, then checked 12421. Move to 2f, repeat, then 2g, repeat. That should prove without any doubt which bird it is on.
Cannot use my motorised is usals driven, so I don´t have the required control.
Happy to play with fixed dish though, if required.
 

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Well even with USALS you can effectively exercise fine control by altering your Longitude setting .. :cool:
 

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Not an issue.

Just add/subtract a tenth at a time.

When finished, simply re-enter the original Longitude :)
 

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So what other transponders are supposed to be on 2F UK beam so I can compare.
Not using 2f uk much here, apart from 11344V, which has quite exact same levels and variations as 12421H, but 12421H quite unique (I suppose it's the fec), getting 'almost' a picture from 3.1 db. 11344V needs 5.5 minimum (picture gone for 4-5 hours in the evenings, cm180).
 

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someone with a motorised ( or fixed for that matter ) lined up on a known 2e transponder to max signal, then checked 12421. Move to 2f, repeat, then 2g, repeat.
No. That does not work. For example 10773H (in this area) produces max SNR further east than most of the other transponders on 2E. This is due to interactions with Badr.

The only way to know what satellite a transponder is on is to graph the curve.
 

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If someone with a motorised ( or fixed for that matter ) lined up on a known 2e transponder to max signal, then checked 12421. Move to 2f, repeat, then 2g, repeat. That should prove without any doubt which bird it is on.
Yes, difference between 2E and 2F is very easy to see here with large dish.

My current setup is fixed 3m for 2E and 2.4 motorised for "others".
 

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