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.... It's time to put the brake's on, she's nearly there
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I don't always trust n2y0 for accurate real-time obvs (or Gorbtrack for that matter). The latter is behind by ~2°.
n2yo might overrun when the bird actually reaches 39°. Has done with other moves before.

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n2yo always overruns even when the satellite has stopped as it is not working on real time just updated periodically so it is only a guide.
 

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Llew, you have not yet updated the TLE's in GorbTrack, I see 3/8/17 who tle latest one is 6/8/17 now.
The TLE of 3/8/17 did not have HS-3 at "full speed" yet, hence the 2° difference.

Speaking of GorbTrack, I think it's still the most easy to use software for bulk-checking of the GEO belt.
Beware though of a nasty bug in the used SGP4 component DJTSatLib.dll of David Taylor, that puts several inclined satellites at the wrong longitude.
For example, EchoStar 21 appears at about 7.3°E, while it's actually at 10.25°E. Other softwares and sites may also use DJTSatLib.
Sadly, David couldn't find the problem and does not bother about it any more, while still promoting his own software WXtrack. :(
 

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Should've checked that Hans, thanks.

Problem - forgotten how to update it manually! In Tools - Options I have Auto Update ticked, but nothing updates.
 

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Indeed, Auto Update does not work, I leave that options unticked.
Instead, routinely click the icons at the right of the Keps Data URL's, before using the program.
 

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That's why I had a problem before, no icons :(

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Never seen that yet! And I have run GorbTrack on several PC's and Windows versions.
By going to the URL's, then "Save as" towards the "Keps" folder does the same.

I get my TLE's differently anyway, to have them all 100%, but that's a different, long story... and want to stop going offtopic here!
 
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going to the URL's and "Save as" towards the "Keps" folder does the same.
Won't let me in to save new TLEs. Access denied. I've updated before a long time ago, but can't remember how.
I'll have a try again later.
 

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Long ago I used STK, AGI.com to work out what was overhead. All I remember is that it worked but was a hell of a learning process and look angles required paid-for add ons. Has anyone used it recently?
@Llew should this have a new thread?
 
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Long ago I used STK, AGI.com to work out what was overhead. All I remember was that it worked but was a hell of a learning process and look angles required paid-for add ons. Has anyone used it recently?
Yes I use STK regularly, but only for a very limited purpose: to check GEO satellite locations in the long (past) term.
For a satellite, it can combine all TLE's issued, and generate graphs of this, I post them in this board occasionally.

@Llew, that sounds like the restriction new Windows versions set on files in the Program Files (x86) folder.
Should be easy to solve, by setting Properties - Security - Permissions to Full Control, for the Gorbtrack folder & subfolders.
 

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@Llew, that sounds like the restriction new Windows versions set on files in the Program Files (x86) folder.
Should be easy to solve, by setting Properties - Security - Permissions to Full Control, for the Gorbtrack folder & subfolders.
That didn't work for me. Trying again, I simply made a new geo text file with the latest TLE's and cut and pasted into the keps folder; needed Admin privileges though, even though I have full control for this program (?)

Anyhow, thanks guys.
 

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Restarted the two beacons in the Ku band. It is currently slightly further west of the HS-2.

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n2yo always overruns even when the satellite has stopped as it is not working on real time just updated periodically so it is only a guide.






I see what you mean @william-1 , it's shown at 40.25° E at the moment by N2YO and also Jens tracking site. Can someone confirm the exact position with a real-time tracker.
Still no new Ka beacon / activity observed at present time.
 

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Some Ka action around 18721 this morning (Athena-Fedus beacon at 37.8E to the left).

My TD88 dish scrapes the fence at 39E, so may not be truly positioned for a peaked signal.

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... It always happens when iv'e been out Llew lol.
Quite a selection to look at.... but just seem to be carriers only at this stage, unless it's a modulation that my pc card or Promax will not recognize.

Assuming these are RHC sigs that i am set up to recieve the levels are ranging from 8dB to 11dB at the moment.

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Too weak for me to resolve or even show as separate carriers John.

Will keep an eye on the band and hope for something more lucid.
 

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... It always happens when iv'e been out Llew lol.
Quite a selection to look at.... but just seem to be carriers only at this stage, unless it's a modulation that my pc card or Promax will not recognize.

Assuming these are RHC sigs that i am set up to recieve the levels are ranging from 8dB to 11dB at the moment.

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.. in the blink of an eye they go from nearly a full span of carriers to nothing, all together.
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