M-NET South Africa Analogue IS902, can this be used in the UK?

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Hey guys..

I don't reside in the UK, but I've always had an interest in these things, so I've always wondered. I am well aware of an analog scrambled analog feed, on the IS902 Satellite for M-net South Africa. I know it's scrambled, but since it's Analog, something would still be receivable, and it's just the the sound that's been cut out, and the picture should be reversed polarity, like the old Cable encryption.

Anyway, my question is..

If someone had to get their hands on an old M-Net STB (http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-other-ac...-9000-m+net-decoder/1001276841740910439167409) example...

Somehow get it to the UK, and keeping the subscription paid for, and running an old analog satellite decoder, to receive the encrypted feed via satellite, and power the M-Net STB's ANT in via the RF out on the Analog Satellite decoder, if the encryption is the same, it should work no issues..

M-Net is still an excellent broadcaster, better than 95% of other broadcasters I've watched.
They model themselves on a typical American TV station, but without the Advertising, political hogwash, and I would be interesting to hear, if this actually works.
 

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This receiver is obsolete (unless it's a cable one).

There are no analogue satellite transmissions anywhere over the European skies. Depending on where you are in the UK, you might be able to receive one or two transponders on 36e with a 1.2m dish but you need a digital receiver with a suitable subscription.
 

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Receiver may be obsolete, but they are still in regular use in South Africa, for the elderly terrestrial based pay TV, similar to Sky UHF.

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Although the beam only covers Sub-Saharan Africa, but it's a fairly large beam, and I recon should someone try the chances of success would be high. Years ago, I remember reading an article of how some guys had built their own satellite dish, and were able to receive the German channels, on 19.2, in Johannesburg, and if that's possible then surely if someone attempted to do it, they would succeed. Then run the RF out on the Sat Box, into antenna socket, of that STB to decode the picture, with the subscription paid.
 

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Forget it - you would need a silly sized dish to stand any chance of getting the feed.

Its also on 62E so will be very low in the sky, so unless you have a perfect view out towards the south east you wont be able to see the satellite anyway.
 

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Years ago, I remember reading an article of how some guys had built their own satellite dish, and were able to receive the German channels, on 19.2, in Johannesburg,
I remember reading something similar and tried to persuade my parents, who where living in Jo'burg in the late 90s, to try and get some Sky UK analogue transponders off 19.2E for fun. We had a huge garden so size of dish would not have been an issue but they were happy with DSTV off the 90cm dish...
 

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@PaulZA - apologies, I stand corrected. It wasn't clear what you were trying to receive and I didn't realise anything was still transmitting in analogue over Europe. That said - encryption is Irdeto, in analogue? Thought it was a digital only system?

But either way, you're unlikely to receive anything from this satellite in the UK unless you're extremely determined, with a field for a truly massive dish. I know @dx qwer has a 5m dish in Germany - perhaps he can try it for you?
 

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His location is listed as NZ, New Zealand, as he states, in his first post, I don't reside in the UK.
I haven't checked the beam maps, to see if he can receive it, but if not can he get it thorugh an IPTV option?
Just done a quick search and found that the satellite seems to be at 62E, as PaulZA stated, Intelsat 902.
 

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Appreciate his location is given as NZ but then why get the receiver to the UK?...

Somehow get it to the UK, and keeping the subscription paid for, and running an old analog satellite decoder, to receive the encrypted feed via satellite, and power the M-Net STB's ANT in via the RF out on the Analog Satellite decoder, if the encryption is the same, it should work no issues..
 

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Appreciate his location is given as NZ but then why get the receiver to the UK?...
Perhaps it's just idle pondering, chit chat, future plans, ideas for other family members?
 

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st post, , but if not can he get it thorugh an IPTV option?

I do have have quite a nice lot of DStv channels, live.
Only issue is I need an Android STB. Bluestacks works excellently, and the quality is just as good as it is broadcast, but I believe due to it being emulated, and the different stages network wise, and I use UnoTelly I have to keep retrying, as it doesn't register DRM 50% of the time, I use the website, sometimes and the flashplayer stream buffers frequently, whereas with the Android Emulator, I get none, but it's still watchable. Watched a movie on M-Net earlier today actually.

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Just a small selection, all taken via screen cap on my Desktop.
No local FTA channels as of yet.

and back to the topic now, regarding Irdeto, that's related to the sound encoding. The picture is scrambled similar to Eurocrypt, but the sound is a complex issue, the sound is the part that's encoded via Irdeto, and it is digital based encryption. I remember years ago, the scrambled picture actually had music playing, but then it's just been a single beeping noise.

I do what I do mainly for the knowledge, and learning.
I often take more complex methods, in my approaches
I wonder if it would be possible to receive the feed lower down in Europe?

I know in the days of C band DStv on the IS10, people were able to recieve transmissions on 68.5e in the UK, and that's even lower down, and the SABC locals were there too once upon a time.
 

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For knowledge reasons, this stuff interests me.
 

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I know in the days of C band DStv on the IS10, people were able to recieve transmissions on 68.5e in the UK, and that's even lower down, and the SABC locals were there too once upon a time.

Yes but 68.5E is / was firing on a European beam and is fairly strong IF you have a clear view of the horizon - many folk dont due to hills / trees / houses out to the south east.
 

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Was the C-Band ever receivable?
Was digging through the archives, and found this.

https://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/threads/dstv-pansat-68-5e.7150/

Mentions someone making a 22m dish, to get Analog from Brazil.

So in theory, doable from the UK?
Yes absolutely for hobby reasons?

Practicality, for everyday use?
Nope not worth it, but it's without a doubt one of the best channels still broadcasting on the analog platform, so it would suit die-hard hobbyists.

I'd love to hear stories, about those who have successfully received this elsewhere, even in SA via the IS902..
For those with 3m+ solids, with a C band LNB, which can receive Analog, this bird may be worth looking for.
 

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I was able to pick up the SABC channels in Helsinki, Finland quite a few years ago when it was on the 68.5E SA/Europe KU beam on a 1.8m but reception was patchy. As the dish's motorised setup didn't reach that far east due to an obstruction I had to manually position the dish there after disengaging the motor so it wasn't something I could watch regularly but I did it just to see if it was possible.
 

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Hi,

in Germany I can´t see any signal on 3927 L (PAL) from 62.0°E Intelsat 902 (SW beam) with 4.9m Orbitron (Mesh).

Best Regards
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Hi,

in Germany I can´t see any signal on 3927 L (PAL) from 62.0°E Intelsat 902 (SW beam) with 4.9m Orbitron (Mesh).

Best Regards
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Wow thanks for the confirmation..
Would the signal chances vary at night?
 

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Hi PaulZA,

okay, never tried between 12 and 6 in "the night" but I don´t think about better signal at this time, sorry.

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