Advice Needed Diseqc setup? or Receiver setup?

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Hi
Don't know if I am writing this in the right place I'm trying to set up..

Well I have a prime focus with four outputs going to 4/1 diseqc then one cable 20meter to house.
then two offset dishes going to 9/1 emp-centauri-diseqc
All that Going to receiver but I'm getting signal from 4.8 and one signal from the 28.2 prime focus. I'm not getting the other three signals from the prime focus. Or how would I set up for those diseqc's vu+ duo2
I also have a diseqc motor on a forth dish going to receiver.
I have two cables going from roof to the receiver.
Thank you for any help.
Jason
 

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Welcome to the forum, Jaska-oz.
Can you please provide more information, regarding the Prime Focus dish, pointing at 28.2E.
Are you using a quad LNB, 4 outputs, going into a Diseqc switch? Or do you have more LNB's, on the dish?
Can you please upload some photographs, of your dishes, and Diseqc set up.
 

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Welcome to the forum, Jaska-oz.
Can you please provide more information, regarding the Prime Focus dish, pointing at 28.2E.
Are you using a quad LNB, 4 outputs, going into a Diseqc switch? Or do you have more LNB's, on the dish?
Can you please upload some photographs, of your dishes, and Diseqc set up.


Hi and thank you.

It is a quad LNB with 4 outputs going into a 4/1 diseqc.

I will take some pics and uplaod them. asap.

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Hi,
Here are the pics
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You don't use a Diseqc switch for a quad LNB.
A Diseqc switch is designed to join 4 separate LNB's, for different satellites, to allow your receiver to view all 4 satellites.
A Quad LNB, 4 outputs, should have 4 individual cables, run to different receivers/rooms, or just to different tuners, the Duo 2 can have upto 4 DVB-S2 internal satellite tuners, which will allow you to record 3 different satellite transponders, and still view any other channels, providing it is connected to separate cables.
 

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Thank you I didn't know that about the Quad. Well I guess I will just have the one there as I don't want to run three more cables from there to the box. Thank you for your help.
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You can run the cables, from the quad LNB, to other Diseqc switches, to combine signals from your other dishes/LNB's, including your motorized dish, so that all tuners/receivers, have access to all dishes, and LNB's.
 

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You can run the cables, from the quad LNB, to other Diseqc switches, to combine signals from your other dishes/LNB's, including your motorized dish, so that all tuners/receivers, have access to all dishes, and LNB's.
So would I need to add another cable from the quad, so they would go into two different diseqc's then into the two receivers in the vu+ box?
 

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From your first post you state you have a 9/1 emp-centauri-diseqc switch, all you need to do is run a cable, from the second output, of your quad LNB, to this, and you can then get 28.2E on this cable.
You can also run cables, from your other dishes, to the 4/1 Diseqc switch, providing the LNB's have spare outputs.
There are several threads, and Diseqc setups, on the forum, perhaps in the pictures of members setups thread:
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Or you can try the search forums option.
 

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From your first post you state you have a 9/1 emp-centauri-diseqc switch, all you need to do is run a cable, from the second output, of your quad LNB, to this, and you can then get 28.2E on this cable.
You can also run cables, from your other dishes, to the 4/1 Diseqc switch, providing the LNB's have spare outputs.
There are several threads, and Diseqc setups, on the forum, perhaps in the pictures of members setups thread:
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Or you can try the search forums option.
Sorry I didn't find how to configure the motor and a fixed dish through the diseqc. I have them set up but should the fixed dish be first and then motor on the diseq?
I get one or the other working but not both in tuner settings.
Thank you
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You need to use the Advanced tuner settings options.
 

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I did that and had all the sats set to lnb1 and 28.2E set to lnb2 but they won't together. ( diseqc 1.2 using usuals and the other not using usual) only 28.2E would work and the I did some filing and then only the motor would work.
How should I set the tuner up?
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You have to configure the fixed dishes to Diseqc 1.1, and the motorized dish to Diseqc 1.2.
If you do a quick internet search, for fixed and motorized dish on Enigma 2 receiver, or on the image you're using, you should find some guides.
 

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I would first make a cable/switch plan, connect your cables and parts that way, and only then set-up your receiver accordingly.

You have one receiver (with two tuners, I believe?), two (or three in total?) cables running into the house from roof or somewehere else, two diseqc switches (4/1 and 9/1), four dishes (one motorized), 4 LNBs (one Quad on a fixed dish, and the other ones are single LNBs?), if I read you posts correctly.
But I don't quite understand how they are all connected.
The setup in your receiver should follow the factual setup of your system.

BTW: How do you want to use the two tuners, and the quad LNB, in combination with the motor? Have you thought about that?
Depending on what satellites you want to view and record at the same time; you can set your cable plan for the best solution for that.
And if you want to be able to switch quickly to one specific satellite, use the quad LNB there.

Greetz,
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I would first make a cable/switch plan, connect your cables and parts that way, and only then set-up your receiver accordingly.

You have one receiver (with two tuners, I believe?), two (or three in total?) cables running into the house from roof or somewehere else, two diseqc switches (4/1 and 9/1), four dishes (one motorized), 4 LNBs (one Quad on a fixed dish, and the other ones are single LNBs?), if I read you posts correctly.
But I don't quite understand how they are all connected.
The setup in your receiver should follow the factual setup of your system.

BTW: How do you want to use the two tuners, and the quad LNB, in combination with the motor? Have you thought about that?
Depending on what satellites you want to view and record at the same time; you can set your cable plan for the best solution for that.
And if you want to be able to switch quickly to one specific satellite, use the quad LNB there.

Greetz,
A33
Hi thank you I did want to set up the quad with the motor. I have them set up with a 4/1 diseqc.

diseqc4/1
input 1 28.2E prime focus(quad)
input 2 motor
going to the vu duo2 receiver A (Vu+ Tuner Dual 2 x DVB-S2)

then
diseqc 9/1
input 1 4.8E
input 2 28.2E prime focus(quad)
going to the vu duo2 receiver B (Vu+ Tuner Dual 2 x DVB-S2)

So where am I going wrong?

I get one working or the other but not both.

Thank you.

Jason
 

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Is the problem that Vu+ Rxs are difficult/impossible to set up to use the two tuners entirely independently? (that appeared to be my experience with the Vu+ Solo 2 when trying to connect Tuner A to a steerable dish and Tuner B to a Diseqc 9/1 switch with quite a few LNBs connected to it. It seemed impossible to send the dish on Tuner A under USALS to a satellite set up for Tuner B under Diseqc 1.1 because the Rx would immediately switch to Tuner B if I selected the same bird. One of the members here said "that is what it does", and can't be fixed unless you create effectively the same satellite for both tuners but with slightly names and E/W locations, e.g. 28.1E and 28.2 E with one set up on Tuner A and the other on Tuner B, so that the Rx considers them to be different satellites although they are actually the same bird in exactly the same orbital location!)
 
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Depending on the software and image you are using any twin tuner linux box can run the tuners independently. The extrend I am using is running one tuner for the motorised and the second for a fixed dish ( on 28.2 ) . Could easily change the fixed tuner to run on diseqc , and with a little thought should be able to run diseqc via the motor side as well.
 

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So, what s/w and image are you using on that box?
 

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So, what s/w and image are you using on that box?
I'm using openatv. I am trying it on the 9/1 diseqc I get the motor to receive 13 and then 28.2 on the fixed dish. But the motor gets no signal from the other sats on the motor.

Thank you.
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Not sure exactly what you are trying to achieve at the moment. I think you said you have two cables from the exterior to the box.
Easy set up would be one direct from tuner " A " to the motorised dish. Second from tuner " B " via Diseqc switch to the other fixed dishes. No point in using Diseqc from the quad on the big dish ( as previously advised by Mickha ) as it is designed to run 4 independent tuners from the one dish. Diseqc switch is designed to allow you to run from multiple dishes ( or lnb´s on the same dish looking at different satellites ) with one tuner.
In the system set-up you can then tell tuner " B " that 1. is 28.2 E, 2. is 13 E etc. Also in the set-up you can stipulate if you want to use tuner " A " , " B " or auto, which lets the system decide which tuner for the satellite you are choosing to view.
Sure there is a way to run the motor via Diseqc switch as well, but too tired to try and work that out at the moment, others here could tell you within a few seconds if they see the thread ( posts )
Edit Diseqc is also a form of motor control as well as a switching system
This may help explain
DiSEqC - Wikipedia
Diseqc 1.2 will allow switching and motor control.
I´m running openVIX on my box and use tuner A for the motor as tuner B does not blindscan correctly.
Happy to help more if required, on the understanding you narrow your location down a bit, because it helps us help you!
 
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