Astra 2F: European Beam Transfers Starting?

[solly]

it look right 12480v move 2a north beam

 

[timo_w2s]

It effected me very badly.
I setup 170 cm dishes and I use to get almost 550 channes. and now almost lost every channels which I love in here. I hope this is tempreraly situation.

I know how you feel, our 1.8m dish in Helsinki is no good for 1N PE1 either, but I suspect 2F will be just as bad for me up north. I think things will become clearer in the autumn when 2E arrives at 28.2E.

 

[geoffrey]

And today 12012V (Sky Premier HD etc), 12110H (comedy central etc) and 12246V (history UK etc) have gone. Comedy Central +1 is still OK and History on 522 is also OK.

Now lost 11992H (Dave Daja View etc).

 

[iandoh]

Now lost 11992H (Dave Daja View etc).

Very strong for me, almost double what it used to be.

it look right 12480v move 2a north beam

This is correct, Channel 4 down by a small amount but still strong so 2A North beam it is.

 

[powel000]

Sadly in Amman-Jordan, Lost many channels on my 3.6m dish. What a disaster. Now can recieve the useless channels.

 

[solly]

what list channel receiver in jordan with 3.6m ?

 

[powel000]

sleepy Hollow, im sure me and you lost the same channels since we are in the same footprint I guess

 

[falk]

Do you have any opinion that why they did not migrate the transporters to 2F European beam?

Without official information from SES we cannot be sure. Nobody here really knows, that they haven't migrated to 2F. It is only a guess because of the situation on the canary islands.

Next year, when there are Astra 2E, 2F and 2G at 28,2°, nobody can tell any more which satellite operates a special transponder, because the satellites and there beams are so similar.

 

[powel000]

Sky UK package (12070 H) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12090 V) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12148 H) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12168 V) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12188 H) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12207 V) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12226 H) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12266 H) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12324 V) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East
Sky UK package (12363 V) moved to Astra 1N @ 28.2° East

 

[Lazarus]

@Falk

Sorry, can't agree.

Reports from various places across Europe and even further afield tend to support the hypothesis that 2F is not part of the current moves. The Canaries issue is just one of many factors.

People are comparing what they had and what they get now (and when, during the day) with what they get (or never did get) on known real Footprints.

 

[falk]

Reports from various places across Europe and even further afield tend to support the hypothesis that 2F is not part of the current moves. The Canaries issue is just one of many factors.

This seems really very strange to me, because if 2F is not part of the current moves, SES could have done the migration last year already and Astra 2B would be now at the final position 19,2° e.

Anyway, I hope you are right. So there is still hope for you guys on the Canaries. SES predicted a receivable pe-beam there with an 1.2m antenna, didn't they?

 

[Lazarus]

Well it was heavily reported that final moves to 2F were due on 16 Dec 2012, but it didn't happen.

Could have just been Forum "noise", but I believe that SES certainly originally intended to load up 2F around then.

Anyway, there's nothing whatsoever we can do but observe - what will be will be.

 

[solly]

2b it move 1n not to 2f

 

[tothbros]

has it ever been officially announced that 1N would move another orbital slot?

 

[Lazarus]

I think so - but it really doesn't matter now anyway.

Plans are always likely to change and if 1N were to stay at 28.2E, then so be it.

But there is pretty dire need for fresh Birds at 19.2E, so that has to be satisfied somehow,

 

[strs65]

Bye bye 12480V, since early this morning she is MIA like her sister 12012V... :-danger

 

[falk]

has it ever been officially announced that 1N would move another orbital slot?

Yes, it is. In this document from SES at page 3 you can see the fleet of satellites as expected of 2015.

At 19.2° E will be Astra 1KR, 1L, 1M, 1N and 2B and at 28.2° E Astra 2A, 2C, 2F, 2E and 2G.

 

[Lazarus]

"Plans subject to change" ................

 

[Pietclock]

2b it move 1n not to 2f

But not 1N Pan-European beam ! 12.207V is much weaker here than all the 1N UK Spot beam transponders. The 1N PE is supposed to be receivable with 60cm standard here, as that satellite is meant for 19 east anyway. No way you get a stable signal with 60cm here (Bavaria,Germany) on 12.207V .... it must be something else.

Might be 2A, 2F PE beam, or even 1N UK Spot beam. But certainly not 1N PE beam.

 

[satesco]

Indeed the signal increased on transponders on pan-european beam.To compare with what you see in other parts of Europe ,here is the list with signal strength from 12070-12363 trps.on the Astra 1N: