LNB , how to know is dead?

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You should always protect LNB's, especially from water ingress, like any other electrical component. I always use self amalgamating tape, and/or a rubber boot, this includes on any unused output.
If you have easy access, to your dish/LNB, I would still take the option of removing your LNB.
Turn off your receiver.
Take it indoors, then make a fresh cable, it only has to be small, and connect this to your receiver, then to the satellite meter.
You should have a rec, and LNB, listed on your meter, showing which way round you connect it.
When you turn on your receiver, you should get a constant response, a light, and a beeping, providing you have the knob turned down to zero.
This will prove where the problem lies.
Hopefully your LNB is fine, but it's unlikely, given how open, to the elements, it has been.
You also should cover the connections to your motor.

Please post back the results, if you do this test.
 

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You should always protect LNB's, especially from water ingress, like any other electrical component. I always use self amalgamating tape, and/or a rubber boot, this includes on any unused output.
If you have easy access, to your dish/LNB, I would still take the option of removing your LNB.
Turn off your receiver.
Take it indoors, then make a fresh cable, it only has to be small, and connect this to your receiver, then to the satellite meter.
You should have a rec, and LNB, listed on your meter, showing which way round you connect it.
When you turn on your receiver, you should get a constant response, a light, and a beeping, providing you have the knob turned down to zero.
This will prove where the problem lies.
Hopefully your LNB is fine, but it's unlikely, given how open, to the elements, it has been.
You also should cover the connections to your motor.

Please post back the results, if you do this test.
Mickha and all, somehow just now , I turned on the receiver as I wanted to see if the motor would light up when I scan a satellite. I tried the 13.e as it was left yesterday ( I did manually) and I didn't have any power as can see below if it's green. I was dead. But when I check I tried signal finder and hallelujah!! Six channels as you can see in the pictures.
What's amazing me is that I did the same thing yesterday and nothing happened.:confusedIMG_20231009_194813070.jpgIMG_20231009_194853039.jpg
 

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you're on 19east
 

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you're on 19east
Yes, I forgot to mention that when I did the signal finder the motor moved to 19.2 so obviously the motor now has power when I performe this. It scanned only 6 channels though.
However, when I tried all the other satellites ,the motor moved to thoses but unfortunately not a signal in any.
Do you think I need to adjust again the dish or something is related to the receiver?
 

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Check your latitude, and longitude, remember that negative longitude readings = West, positive = East.
Check on dishpointer, enter your postcode, and zoom in on the map, to find where your dish is located, moving the green icon, as you do.
Unfortunately, I don't think you've solved the problem, as previously, I've experienced something similar, when your equipment gets water in it, it stops working, but if it stops raining, and it dries out, it can work again, for a little time.

It might also be that your dish needs re-adjusting, not manually, but using your receiver, as it might not be finding the satellites properly. If you go into the menu, tuner settings, Positioner Setup, you can fine tune your dish, fine movement option.
 

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Yes, I forgot to mention that when I did the signal finder the motor moved to 19.2 so obviously the motor now has power when I performe this. It scanned only 6 channels though.
However, when I tried all the other satellites ,the motor moved to thoses but unfortunately not a signal in any.
Do you think I need to adjust again the dish or something is related to the receiver?
it only scanned 6 channels cos you had it set to scan 1 TP only.... change it to single satellite search
 

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it s on 19 East badly pointed;
your 6 channels are top of the lengthy German list.
They have strong signals.
 

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it s on 19 East badly pointed;
your 6 channels are top of the lengthy German list.
They have strong signals.
I think you are right as probably the dish tilted or bended. I also have to point out that I cannot even get Thoor . So , do you think it's worth to manually change the dish a bit. I was also thinking to get Hispasat 30 degrees. My dish is 75/80cm so do I need 100cm,? I have my dish south facing next the roof. Very manageable to change ( bit of work). Or maybe I can do again the whole thing to get first the satellites that I used to get ( 19.2 east , 13.east). Many thanks ☮️
 

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You should be able to get 30W, providing that you haven't got anything blocking the signal.
0.8W might take a bit of time, as the channels seem to have changed, I'll try and find a FTA channel, that's best to try.
You have a motorized dish, which changes angle, as the dish tracks the satellite arc, to automatically compensate for LNB skew.
Have you tried using the dish positioner option, to get the best signal quality? And have you checked your Latitude, and Longitude, are entered correctly?
 

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I think you are right as probably the dish tilted or bended. I also have to point out that I cannot even get Thoor . So , do you think it's worth to manually change the dish a bit. I was also thinking to get Hispasat 30 degrees. My dish is 75/80cm so do I need 100cm,? I have my dish south facing next the roof. Very manageable to change ( bit of work). Or maybe I can do again the whole thing to get first the satellites that I used to get ( 19.2 east , 13.east). Many thanks ☮️
the state you are in, i would definitely start from scratch on 1w - get that peaked - then sort the rest - make sure your motor is on the correct elevation angle, and the motor on the pole is 100% level.

turn the motor with the dish on the pole until you get a lock, then start peaking. 1000 threads on this.

here is one

here is another
 

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I think you are right as probably the dish tilted or bended. I also have to point out that I cannot even get Thoor . So , do you think it's worth to manually change the dish a bit. I was also thinking to get Hispasat 30 degrees. My dish is 75/80cm so do I need 100cm,? I have my dish south facing next the roof. Very manageable to change ( bit of work). Or maybe I can do again the whole thing to get first the satellites that I used to get ( 19.2 east , 13.east). Many thanks ☮️
for asra and hotbird,yes! get a monoblock to have both at the same time.
Or keep a single if you want to play around...there s not much on Thor ,unless you catch the Nordic beam...
or 4.8East (dozens of Ukrainian channels);4West has some too
 

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Just checked 0.8W and found 1 of the strongest transponders to be Diva 11862 H 28000 DVB-S, but encrypted, a FTA channel Music Channel Balkan 11900 H 28000 DVB-S.

The easiest way, to find 0.8W, is to go to Dishpointer, type in your postcode, select 0.8W, from the drop down box, next to where you type your postcode, click on Search.
Zoom in on the provided map, moving the green icon, as you locate your property, then look at the green line, for where to point your dish.

Dishpointer also gives you a guide as to any possible obstacles, blocking your signal, if you tick the box, on the right hand side, of the map, show obstacle (line of sight checker), and move the red icon, to where the obstacles are.
 

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Thanks a lot guys.
I will follow all suggestions and try to adjust the motor and dish accordingly.
To be fair , I would love to play up a bit and get different satellites on my dish but realistically , my family and I have more interest in Spanish, German, French and if it's possible to find some channels from Brazil would be a dream...:Y:-clap
 

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Thanks a lot guys.
I will follow all suggestions and try to adjust the motor and dish accordingly.
To be fair , I would love to play up a bit and get different satellites on my dish but realistically , my family and I have more interest in Spanish, German, French and if it's possible to find some channels from Brazil would be a dream...:Y:-clap
When I mentionedSpanish/ German/ Portuguese, is because we want to improve the languages that we speak at home as well as helping my daughter with her GCSE's with French. :Y
 

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For these languages a monoblock on 13E & 19E is ideal
German and French on 19E;Spanish & Italian on 13E
Use kingofsat,selecting by sat & languages!
Ex:French & Astra 1,add "clear" to select FTA channels https://fr.kingofsat.net/find2.php?...m_genre=&num_crypt=1&num_standard=&ordre=freq
French & 13E

For French,Arte ,Tv5 FBS tv5 Europe and LCP are the most useful,
Arte on 13E,others on 19E
German ,19E only,around 40 channels , all their tv channels!
Italian,only keep the RAI ones,others are trash.
spanish,TVE on 13E,regional and Cuba on 19E
portuguese only RTP on 13E 12111V,27500(Portugal);;;;
Brasil is dead on sat,try online tv brasil.br ....https://tvbrasil.ebc.com.br/
and youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSv9d0kQegylHWpP83jWSQg
 
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For these languages a monoblock on 13E & 19E is ideal
German and French on 19E;Spanish & Italian on 13E
Use kingofsat,selecting by sat & languages!
Ex:French & Astra 1,add "clear" to select FTA channels https://fr.kingofsat.net/find2.php?...m_genre=&num_crypt=1&num_standard=&ordre=freq
French & 13E

For French,Arte ,Tv5 FBS tv5 Europe and LCP are the most useful,
Arte on 13E,others on 19E
German ,19E only,around 40 channels , all their tv channels!
Italian,only keep the RAI ones,others are trash.
spanish,TVE on 13E,regional and Cuba on 19E
portuguese only RTP on 13E 12111V,27500(Portugal);;;;
Brasil is dead on sat,try online tv brasil.br ....https://tvbrasil.ebc.com.br/
and youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSv9d0kQegylHWpP83jWSQg
Thanks a lot for that. Now ,it will be to set up again my motor/dish correctly to have thoses. Hopefully this weekend I do it if the weather permitting.:Y
 

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it only scanned 6 channels cos you had it set to scan 1 TP only.... change it to single satellite search
Hi , when I changed to single satellite search the motor didn't operate. I was no light on it. And come back to green when it was in the fine scan but again appeared only the six channels. Thanks.
 

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It might mean that your LNB isn't switching to Vertical, from Horizontal polarity.
Equally your SNR reading is too low, you need to fine tune, to get it higher, to receive more channels, especially the HD channels, as your scan is only showing DVB-S, not DVB-S2.
Please try the fine tune option, in moto
You can find all the frequencies, for 19.2E, and other satellites, at Lyngsat
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https://www.lyngsat.com/Astra-1KR-1L-1M-1N.html
The motor shouldn't move, when searching a 19.2E, as you're already pointed at 19.2E.
Have you tried using the dish positioner option, to get the best signal quality? And have you checked your Latitude, and Longitude, are entered correctly?

Go into the menu, Setup, Tuner Setup, and look for Positioner Setup. It might be different in OpenATV, but if you post screen shots, of your menu, someone should be able to help you.
 

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Thanks I will try to check it tomorrow. In the photo I have the dishpointer position.
 
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