Advice Needed Looking for a satellite reciever

[JacketPotato]

Hello, I'm looking for a DVB-S/S2 reciever as the only sat tuner I have currently is in an old Panasonic TV. It appears that the favourites here are the Octagon tuners.
I also have some questions about the tuners:
Q1: Can octagon devices integrate with TVHeadend / Kodi / Jellyfin or all three? This is pretty important for me. I understand Sat > IP is the normal way to do this
Q2: How can you access the streams from these devices over the network?
Q3: Can these STBs record to USB or over the network
Here are the things I'd like for it to be able to do:
It would be nice if it was sub £100
Recording over the network or to USB
WiFi would be nice but ethernet is an option.
I would like 2 or more tuners but 1 is fine.
Blind scan is also pretty important but most of the channels I want are in the freesat EPG.

 

[LeBelge]

OS MINI 4K S2X

EDISION OS MINI 4K S2X, is the new E2 LINUX 4Κ UHD, DVB-S2X receiver in the E2 LINUX range of EDISION receivers. It features 4K UHD resolution and has Multi Stream T2MI Tuner & Blindscan. It is equipped with a variety of the most advanced featur

www.edision.gr

for blind scan this is the receiver of your dreams

You can you access the streams over the home network on PC, tablet, smartphone and watch via VLC.
You can record to USB or in your computer.

 

[JacketPotato]

That seems like a pretty good reciever thanks, is there anywhere you can buy it in the UK?

 

[scopus]

That seems like a pretty good reciever thanks, is there anywhere you can buy it in the UK?

World of Satellite sell its big sister the Mio..

 

[LeBelge]

That seems like a pretty good reciever thanks, is there anywhere you can buy it in the UK?

€127.35
€4.83 delivery Thursday, March 2.
Deliver to United Kingdom
Sold by Amazon

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/EDISION-Mini-S2X-Multistream-Pre-programmed-black/dp/B0847QT8TF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1BG8RRHXBW1XB&keywords=edision+os+mini+4k&qid=1677066298&sprefix=edision%2Caps%2C119&sr=8-3

You can return it for free to amazon UK if do not like it.
And get your money back to your prepaid Visa / Mastercard.
If you order it from amazon.co.uk it will any way arrive from Germany.

 

[ozumo]

You can return it for free to amazon UK if do not like it.

Perhaps it's recently changed but last year when I had to return something bought from Amazon DE I had to pay for shipping to Germany. Amazon only offered to refund about 15% of the actual cost of postage.

 

[scopus]

Perhaps it's recently changed but last year when I had to return something bought from Amazon DE I had to pay for shipping to Germany. Amazon only offered to refund about 15% of the actual cost of postage.

Also 'Currently Unavailable' with Amazon UK..

 

[ozumo]

A simpler option would be an Octagon SX88+ available for under £50. Only single tuner but has blind search and channels can be shared over a network via UPnP. However it would only have now&next EPG information.

For twin tuners an Octagon SF8008 (2x satellite tuner version) would offer similar capabilities to the previously mentioned Edision and is available from UK sellers. 7 day EPG is possible via a plugin but the operating system is more complex than the SX88+.

Some GTMedia receivers can output a .m3u file for network access if that is better for use with TVHeadend etc.

 

[JacketPotato]

A simpler option would be an Octagon SX88+ available for under £50. Only single tuner but has blind search and channels can be shared over a network via UPnP. However it would only have now&next EPG information.

For twin tuners an Octagon SF8008 (2x satellite tuner version) would offer similar capabilities to the previously mentioned Edision and is available from UK sellers. 7 day EPG is possible via a plugin but the operating system is more complex than the SX88+.

Some GTMedia receivers can output a .m3u file for network access if that is better for use with TVHeadend etc.

Those sound great, and I was looking at the Octagon SX88+ already, could I not use the same plugin for 7 day EPG with that?
In the end I might just buy one of the USB dongles you can get and plug it into a raspberry pi that already has a TV Hat on it (DVB-T2 tuner).
EDIT: I forgot that the SX88+ runs OpenATV (whatever that is ) but the other one runs Enigma2? ) to be honest I don't really know the differences between the two operating systems.

 

[ozumo]

The original SX88+ has a closed operating system so plugins can't be used. The SX88 V2 (and 6018) has Enigma 2 OS, OpenATV is the version (image) of it that comes as standard on Octagon E2 receivers.

 

[Satspot]

Those sound great, and I was looking at the Octagon SX88+ already, could I not use the same plugin for 7 day EPG with that?
In the end I might just buy one of the USB dongles you can get and plug it into a raspberry pi that already has a TV Hat on it (DVB-T2 tuner).
EDIT: I forgot that the SX88+ runs OpenATV (whatever that is ) but the other one runs Enigma2? ) to be honest I don't really know the differences between the two operating systems.

If you’re after DVBS a Pi HAT won’t be an option. DVBT only as it’s description suggests.

I suggest you get Sat>IP receiver which will work nicely with the likes of LibreELEC on the likes of a Raspberry Pi or any other Windows or Linux system.

You can get either a two or four tuner version in the Digibit range. The two tuner version is best value at €80 delivered.

You can record one channel on one mux while watching a channel on a completely different mux with the two tuner version. It works best with TV Headend and of course you get a full 7 day EPG without the need for an EPG subscription.

 

[suedschwede]

SX88 V2 Dual Os is a very good Box

 

[JacketPotato]

If you’re after DVBS a Pi HAT won’t be an option. DVBT only as it’s description suggests.

I suggest you get Sat>IP receiver which will work nicely with the likes of LibreELEC on the likes of a Raspberry Pi or any other Windows or Linux system.

You can get either a two or four tuner version in the Digibit range. The two tuner version is best value at €80 delivered.

You can record one channel on one mux while watching a channel on a completely different mux with the two tuner version. It works best with TV Headend and of course you get a full 7 day EPG without the need for an EPG subscription.

Don't worry I know, I was saying I already had a pi HAT and might get a USB dongle. A sat>IP receiver looks like a good option!

 

[LeBelge]

Octagon
Memory - 1GB slow DDR3 RAM
Flash memory - only 4GB eMMC Flash
DVB-S2 tuner = is not S2X and no support for T2-Mi


Edision
DVB-S2X tuner with Multi Stream and T2MI & Blind Scan support
RAM 1GB DDR4 2400Mhz = faster than DDR3
FLASH 8GB eMMC = twice more than 4GB
Real multi boot of 4 Enigma2 images of your choice
Slot 1 - OpenATV
Slot 2 - OpenPli
Slot 3 - GreecOS
Slot 4 - XXL E2

 

[LeBelge]

A sat>IP receiver looks like a good option!

Every Enigma2 receiver sends streams to your home network.

 

[suedschwede]

The Octagon SX88V2 Dual Os is a very inexpensive receiver which, apart from the missing S2x tuner, is on a par with the Octagon SF8008m Mini. It has multiboot in 4 slots and there are some image providers like OpenATV, Openeight, OpenHDF and Octagon's Definesatimage.
The SX88V2 Dual Os can handle multistream and T2MI without any problems.
The Edision Os Mio4K that I had was defective once and after replacing the mainboard, the box could not convince me, the blind scan was like a random number generator, something else was always found and after the next defect it went into the recycling bin.

 

[suedschwede]

Multistream and T2MI with SX88V2 Dual







oscam is same working (PowerVU)

 

[JacketPotato]

I think if I end up getting a box, I'll get this one probably OCTAGON SFX6018 S2+IP WL HD H.265 HEVC 1xDVB-S2 Enigma 2 Linux TV Sat Receiver - BUILT IN WiFi (although it seems suspiciously cheap compared to other sites)

The Octagon SX88V2 Dual Os is a very inexpensive receiver which, apart from the missing S2x tuner, is on a par with the Octagon SF8008m Mini. It has multiboot in 4 slots and there are some image providers like OpenATV, Openeight, OpenHDF and Octagon's Definesatimage.
The SX88V2 Dual Os can handle multistream and T2MI without any problems.
The Edision Os Mio4K that I had was defective once and after replacing the mainboard, the box could not convince me, the blind scan was like a random number generator, something else was always found and after the next defect it went into the recycling bin.

This is the other one I might consider, as S2X isn't an issue for me as it isn't used for freesat right now. It's not sold on world-of-sat but I'm sure I could find it else where.
I just want to clear something up first, if there is only one tuner I can only watch channels on a single frequency at once, correct? And if i wanted more than one tuner (which I don't really need) I would need to connect 2 cables to the reciever from the LNB (I think i was getting confused with terrestrial where you only need one cable per tuner in most STBs)
My only concern is that freesat will start using DVB-S2X and obsolete the reciever, however that seems unlikely given that some channels are still on DVB-S

 

[ozumo]

I can't see Freesat or Sky ever switching to DVB-S2X as it would require every official receiver currently in use for those services to be changed.

Generally single tuner = one channel at a time although some receivers allow you to record (or stream) one channel while watching another that is on the same transponder.

 

[Satspot]

Don't worry I know, I was saying I already had a pi HAT and might get a USB dongle. A sat>IP receiver looks like a good option!

It is. Once plugged in and sat cables attached in the case of the Digibit Twin it is automatically recognised as two separate tuners. With the likes of DVB Viewer or NextPVR in Windows or TV Headend in Linux coupled with Kodi provides a very slick HTPC that will do the same and even more than many of the boxes mentioned here. Technically you can record one channel from one transponder while watching another on the same transponder AND record a channel from a completely different transponder at the same time. I’ve already outlined the other features above.