SKY HD and Dragon cam

[Masoud_h]

I hope someone sort this out before I get my new white card, I'm not sharing my card with anyone I just hate sky boxes, poor STB ever!
its got nothing!!just a shi****
I'm paying for that SKY TV why? why?
I'd like to use my own STB.

 

[laticsmon]

white card uses box key not box serial

 

[Masoud_h]

white card uses box key not box serial

so ???
you mean we have to no chance to get sky on our own stb anymore??

 

[sboyd]

Its still NDS but things have been tightened up somewhat to stop folks card sharing and using none sky receivers so easily.

Wait a few weeks and see how things develop - there are still relatively few white cards out in the wild at the moment.

Thanks for the reply Analoguesat. Will definitely we keeping an eye on this and searching other websites for a resolution

 

[rolfw]

so ???
you mean we have to no chance to get sky on our stb anymore??

No, that's not what is being said, but as there are very few white cards out with subscribers, then there has been very little testing, also they have changed the the information the card looks for to identify the box.

Now this may well be overcome, but it also has to be kept in mind, that until all cards have been swapped out, Sky will be transmitting with the present encryption and that when using the newest flavour, it may present more problems for those using non-standard equipment.

So anyone who gives you a guaranteed solution now, is being premature, as they can't possibly know.

 

[sprout]

i have already told you dragon wont work diablo wont and t rex wont reason they are dvb-s not dvbs-2 so wont workO-zzz

DVB-S or DVBS-2 nothing to do with the cam 2

 

[davemurgtroyd]

New Sky "white" cards will NOT work in any CAM at present (TRex, Dragon or Diablo) and I personally believe the firmware will never be updated now to allow their use as the developers/hackers have now moved on to other things. The only non Sky receivers now capable of using Sky white cards are Linux based ones with appropriate software.

 

[danit]

New Sky "white" cards will NOT work in any CAM at present (TRex, Dragon or Diablo) and I personally believe the firmware will never be updated now to allow their use as the developers/hackers have now moved on to other things. The only non Sky receivers now capable of using Sky white cards are Linux based ones with appropriate software.

Vantage 8000 (not linux based) works fine with new white sky cards (read and update)

 

[DigitalDelboy]

New Sky "white" cards will NOT work in any CAM at present (TRex, Dragon or Diablo) and I personally believe the firmware will never be updated now to allow their use as the developers/hackers have now moved on to other things. The only non Sky receivers now capable of using Sky white cards are Linux based ones with appropriate software.

Have all the developers moved on ? Surely all the CAM makers can't be part of the same hacker group, can they ?

Danit, can you give me some more info on the Vantage 8000. I currently use my FireDTV with DVBViewer and T-Rex cam to cap to my PC. I am getting "change your card" messages now so it is only a matter of time before my card is dead. Is there any way I can still cap in pure TS stream to my PC with the new white Sky card using the Vantage ? Does it record in pure TS or is it encoded on the fly by different quality settings ? What is the PC to Vatange link like ? Sorry for all the questions, I will understand if you have better things to do than give me the info.

 

[Mickha]

Have a look in the Dreambox section as there are a few threads regarding the new Sky white card.

 

[danit]

Danit, can you give me some more info on the Vantage 8000. I currently use my FireDTV with DVBViewer and T-Rex cam to cap to my PC. I am getting "change your card" messages now so it is only a matter of time before my card is dead.

we're a bit OT here, there's a Vantage HD section on this forum, anyway I'll give you some clues...

Is there any way I can still cap in pure TS stream to my PC with the new white Sky card using the Vantage ? Does it record in pure TS or is it encoded on the fly by different quality settings ? What is the PC to Vatange link like ?

no it records in .trp format, dividing different tracks (video, audio, subtitles etc.), if it's SD file you can use many free software to convert in .ts (ProjectX, TS Doctor, etc.) or use KMPlayer without needing to convert, if it's a HD file, as far as I know only DVR-Studio HD will work properly

PC link, I never tried personally but I guess it's pretty easy (just read some guides and reports), btw. no cs is possible

 

[Anonymous-A]

I have a Technomate TM-6800 Super that will read a white card but it will not update the card.

 

[davemurgtroyd]

Have all the developers moved on ? Surely all the CAM makers can't be part of the same hacker group, can they ?

The main use/selling point of these CAMs has now been defeated by all the secure encryption methods. Use of these CAMs for decoding genuine subscription cards was a secondary use for a vast majority of purchasers.

 

[sat-tv-fan]

Just tried my Vantage 8000 with the white card and the old blue one no go at all. That's that then :-Nooo

 

[danit]

Just tried my Vantage 8000 with the white card and the old blue one no go at all. That's that then :-Nooo

mine works, of course not with the official firmware

 

[DigitalDelboy]

The main use/selling point of these CAMs has now been defeated by all the secure encryption methods. Use of these CAMs for decoding genuine subscription cards was a secondary use for a vast majority of purchasers.

Shame, as I am sure loads of users would prefer the use of their PC to watch and cap then to use Sky+.

 

[Anonymous-A]

That is the very reason I have cancelled my UK sub. I will still maintain the Irish sub so I can watch RTE etc. but now that I can't watch my UK subscription channels via my HTPC thats it for me. I can get by nicely with the Freesat channels.

I wonder how many more people have canned their subs because Sky want to tie us into their inflexible boxes?

 

[Masoud_h]

they are so stupied ( sky ) i don't want to use that stupid sky+ HD box
We are paying our mponey to them thy should let us use our own STB
I want to use my own Humax
what do i do now ?? still no news no cams nothing

 

[tom_101]

Danit,
could you please tell me with which firmware version does the new Sky card work in your Vantage HD? Did you spot any problem with overheating or is everything fine? Thanks a lot for reply.

 

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mashoud

stop harping on about sky: you know what sort of company they are greedy want to control europe and are forever showing repeats on diff channels.

we should all boycot them for the nr future and see what happens

go and get a linux box. end of