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Its gonna be a pain the ass to setup with the height off a ladder but thats 'what we do'
 

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gap30,

1. If you wish to have the option to fine control the dish for both East/West and Elevation then you need to install your second actuator and connect it up to one of your dish positioners.

2. I personally would go for the "Trust1" option to allow any LNB to be at the focal point of the dish. If you place additional LNB's in a horizontal plane along the bar then you will be pointing the dish focus at say 36 West but using an LNB on the horizontal bar to get a signal from 40.5 West. As your dish might be struggling with the C Band signals from some satellites my personal view is to get the LNB at the focus of the dish, especially if you are using and elevation actuator to peak the focus. Other members may have a different view on this point.

3. Good luck with whatever options you go for.


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Its gonna be a pain the ass to setup with the height off a ladder but thats 'what we do'

I would first consider adapting the Channel Master dish that is already up there to run with the second actuator before replacing the lot.
 

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gap30,

I think that there are a few UK based forum members with 1.5m Gibertini dishes that are setup for C band capability? You could try a post in the C Band section asking about UK C Band signal reception with a Gibertini 1.5m. It will give you a guide as to what signals can be locked with a 1.5m dish.


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Excellent answers all thank you
 

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gap30,

I think that there are a few UK based forum members with 1.5m Gibertini dishes that are setup for C band capability? You could try a post in the C Band section asking about UK C Band signal reception with a Gibertini 1.5m. It will give you a guide as to what signals can be locked with a 1.5m dish

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Captain Jack had a Gibby 1.5 setup for C Band, maybe he can chip in?
 

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Finally got the dish up today which was a total pain the bottom

Decided to use the rail which came with the dish and had fitted the invacom and the c band lnb

Installed via a 4 way diseqc switch

Signals were booming with direct feed to KU band

Once i connect the diseqc switch everything goes tits up

Can anyone advise, this bit is new to me and have spent a couple of hours trying to read up on the subject

Will post some pics tomorrow, I really do not advise fitting big dishes on roofs when its windy
 

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...Installed via a 4 way diseqc switch
...Once i connect the diseqc switch everything goes tits up. Can anyone advise, this bit is new to me...


gap30,

Sounds like you are making good progress.

My understanding of configuring DiSEqC switches is moderate to poor. However, for a 4 way switch it might be best to use DiSEqC mode 1.0 in your satellite receiver.
If you enter the satellite setup option in your receiver, scroll to the DiSEqc 1.0 option and select "1 of 4" for all the satellites that will get signals from the LNB that is connected to port 1 of your switch. Similarly, in the satellite setup of the receiver select "2 of 4" for all satellites that will get signals from the LNB that is connected to port 2 of your switch and so on....up to 4 LNB's

If you are using the same receiver for both C Band and Ku Band you will also need to set the LNB type correctly in each satellites setup profile in the receiver. For example if you wish to receive both C Band and Ku Band from the same satellite then you need two profiles for that satellite in your receiver, one for C band and one for Ku Band. The DiSEqC setting for the C Band profile would point to your switch port that is connected to the C Band LNB, the DiSEqC setting for the Ku Band profile would point to the switch port that is connected to your Ku Band LNB.

I hope my attempt at explaining it above is easy to follow?
If one of the DiSEqC gurus pops along and reads the topic they will be able to provide a more precise explanation.


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You wanted one C band position for football (40.5 W) so why complicate things with a diSEqC switch ?
 

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That is correct regards 40.5w but not sure how I am complicating things?

I 'assumed' and I use that term lightly the easiest way to do this is to use a diseqc switch
 

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gap30,

Sounds like you are making good progress.

My understanding of configuring DiSEqC switches is moderate to poor. However, for a 4 way switch it might be best to use DiSEqC mode 1.0 in your satellite receiver.
If you enter the satellite setup option in your receiver, scroll to the DiSEqc 1.0 option and select "1 of 4" for all the satellites that will get signals from the LNB that is connected to port 1 of your switch. Similarly, in the satellite setup of the receiver select "2 of 4" for all satellites that will get signals from the LNB that is connected to port 2 of your switch and so on....up to 4 LNB's

If you are using the same receiver for both C Band and Ku Band you will also need to set the LNB type correctly in each satellites setup profile in the receiver. For example if you wish to receive both C Band and Ku Band from the same satellite then you need two profiles for that satellite in your receiver, one for C band and one for Ku Band. The DiSEqC setting for the C Band profile would point to your switch port that is connected to the C Band LNB, the DiSEqC setting for the Ku Band profile would point to the switch port that is connected to your Ku Band LNB.

I hope my attempt at explaining it above is easy to follow?
If one of the DiSEqC gurus pops along and reads the topic they will be able to provide a more precise explanation.


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Thanks, yes I am trying to get my head around this

What puzzles me is if I select diseqc 1.0 how to I enter my positioner count ie 19

Using SmartDVB btw
 

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That is correct regards 40.5w but not sure how I am complicating things?

I 'assumed' and I use that term lightly the easiest way to do this is to use a diseqc switch


Post some pictures of the feed/dish / motor as there is definitly more than meets the - blind - eye.
 

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Thanks, yes I am trying to get my head around this

What puzzles me is if I select diseqc 1.0 how to I enter my positioner count ie 19

Using SmartDVB btw
Are you using a V-Box II, used on a 36v motor, which connects 4 wires, from the motor to the positioner (V-Box II)?
You usually use Diseqc 1.2 to control your V-Box II, from your receiver, connected using a co-ax lead, with the 4 wires, from your motor, going into theV-Box II, and the cable, from your Diseqc switch, going into the LNB in, on the V-Box II, then a co-ax cable from the V-Box II, LNB out, into your receiver.
Is this how you've got your system set up?
I know this can be done in an Enigma 2 receiver, like a VU+ receiver, using the Advanced set up options, but I'm unsure what set up you are using.
Can you please post more details.
 

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That is correct regards 40.5w but not sure how I am complicating things?
I 'assumed' and I use that term lightly the easiest way to do this is to use a diseqc switch


My assumption is that "gap30" wishes to receive C Band and Ku Band from two LNB's fitted to the same dish and using the same satellite receiver? If two satellite receivers are to be used, one dedicated to C Band and the other dedicated to Ku Band there is no need for a switch.

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My assumption is that "gap30" wishes to receive C Band and Ku Band from two LNB's fitted to the same dish and using the same satellite receiver? If two satellite receivers are to be used, one dedicated to C Band and the other dedicated to Ku Band there is no need for a switch.

Rgds

Understood, the use of a DiSEqC switch in addition to the DiSEqC motor is going to have its issues.
My concern is if the switch is installed before the motor ( but still outside) there could be corruption of the positioning data..

Better to have a complete second run of cable into the home from the new LNB and connect the C band LNB manually for the time being, until the useful signals are found.
 

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Things to do:

Brace the C band LNB
Tidy up wiring
Figure out this fkn stupid diseqc switch settings







Signals seem ok
 
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99% sure i dont need to run any additional cables, just have to work out how to set up diseqc switch


 

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99% sure i dont need to run any additional cables, just have to work out how to set up diseqc switch


Looking at your switch picture you only have one cable connected to the switch. Are you using separate satellite receivers for C Band and Ku Band?
 

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Looking at your switch picture you only have one cable connected to the switch. Are you using separate satellite receivers for C Band and Ku Band?



Looking at the pic, ... i think he is just by-passing that switch at the moment to get himself a direct feed off either one of the lnb's down to his receiver position
 
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