Any lnb test reviews lately?

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So, summarising much of the thread, I would say that the single lnb that would seem to perform best at the moment (apart from the old IDLPs of the inverts) would be the Megasat Devil. Correct?
Not really, both of us have found the Fracarro LNBs to be better than the competition.
 

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Not really, both of us have found the Fracarro LNBs to be better than the competition.
Do you have the test results somewhere, where did you make measurements with this lnb in real time? Where is it visible that this lnb is better than the rest of the competition? Which frequencies and satellites were covered in this test? Thank you very much for the information.
 

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So now I've finished to test most of popular LNB, so here is my ranking:

1 - Megasat Diavolo
2 - Triax TSI100
3 - Triax TSID
4 - Dur-line +ultra
5 - Inverto Black ultra/Golden Media 201+
6 - Inverto PLL ( Too much fluctuations)

If someone know a better Lnb than Megasat Diavolo, I will test it too
These results are really interesting. As I wrote earlier in the thread I also tested a number of LNBs a while ago and unfortunately, I did not try the Megasat Diavolo or the Triax. I measured over five frequencies (10714H,10935V, 11126V, 10818V, 11305H) on 28E and showed the S/Q values in a table. In contrast to your list, I concluded that Golden Media 202+ (OK not exactly the same as yours) was better that the Dur-line Ultra +. I have now calculated a geomean of the S and Q values to give each LNB a point score :cool: and it looks like below. It would be interesting to try the Diavolo and compare to Golden Media and Durline. Is it this one? https://www.amazon.de/Megasat-Diavo...1731487706&sprefix=diavolo+lnb,aps,126&sr=8-3

BTW, did you order the Golden Media recently? It was difficult for me to get hold of one 202+, a vendor in German sent me a 202 (without the +) and I had to return it and get one from UK instead.

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Golden Media 202+ (new)
79,1​
Durline +Ultra single (new)
71,3​
Silvercrest quad (Lidl middle aisle, 2010)
70,1​
Schwaiger Single (2020)
69,8​
Inverto Premium single PLL (new)
65,4​
Inverto Black Ultra quad (2015)
63,2​
GTsat quad (2010)
61,0​
MTI Highline twin (2011)
60,1​
 

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I think that every Lnb should be tested on the Vertical and Horizontal High and Low Band -recommended in the entire clark band - of course, who has a motorized system. Also test bad frequencies - for example at the limit of lock., for example at 8w, 7w, 26e, 42e, 52.5 e,54.9e 75e. The test cannot be based on one satellite with a pair of frequencies. But I would really like to see the results of the Fracarro Lnb compared to the others.On which Fracarro lnb model were the measurements made for me to order and test it? It would be good to make the measurements with a measuring instrument, not with STB receivers, because there are differences between the tuners and the value display itself already between the different Image.
 

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I should test on more frequencies and get hold of the other top lnbs (Fracarro, Diavolo, X2) and test them against Golden Media and Durline. My meter tests five transponders in a loop, I could use two different loops to test ten transponders for each lnb.
 

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These results are really interesting. As I wrote earlier in the thread I also tested a number of LNBs a while ago and unfortunately, I did not try the Megasat Diavolo or the Triax. I measured over five frequencies (10714H,10935V, 11126V, 10818V, 11305H) on 28E and showed the S/Q values in a table. In contrast to your list, I concluded that Golden Media 202+ (OK not exactly the same as yours) was better that the Dur-line Ultra +. I have now calculated a geomean of the S and Q values to give each LNB a point score :cool: and it looks like below. It would be interesting to try the Diavolo and compare to Golden Media and Durline. Is it this one? https://www.amazon.de/Megasat-Diavolo-Twin-LNB-0-1dB/dp/B00175PH6E/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=Q8MLMENLR2VX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.UbrX7hY8HRRJ3Gx6rsqJjjuFA_qMX058Ug1tj7ntbBV_-XIPhVmBYY-oMKWYVH27TaGQJ-EII-drJiMNp0R9q9sVQZxOQoCAqsj0U1EzVV3J3PqD1LVTEt2gOIenQdHTo24hRp29qMJhOnn_HjlhVxD7qUIT20dMUjSJQLTjjEisjIF0tu55hL-E-6p5a9nF.z4h1GUti4hsCz_Q62mETCoRV4dog3U0RMM89rPSZV58&dib_tag=se&keywords=diavolo+lnb&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1731487706&sprefix=diavolo+lnb,aps,126&sr=8-3

BTW, did you order the Golden Media recently? It was difficult for me to get hold of one 202+, a vendor in German sent me a 202 (without the +) and I had to return it and get one from UK instead.

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Golden Media 202+ (new)
79,1​
Durline +Ultra single (new)
71,3​
Silvercrest quad (Lidl middle aisle, 2010)
70,1​
Schwaiger Single (2020)
69,8​
Inverto Premium single PLL (new)
65,4​
Inverto Black Ultra quad (2015)
63,2​
GTsat quad (2010)
61,0​
MTI Highline twin (2011)
60,1​

Hi! I found my Golden media lnb on "leboncoin" French famous website.

Hard to find nowadays...

Here is the link where I buy my Diavolo lnb:


 

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Have someone tested the best option lnb for wave frontier t90 results?
 

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Look at post number 77 in this thread and click on the link - you have the results for t90, which lnb are the best on which satellite.
 

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One thing I did not yet see mentioned in this thread, at least in the most recent posts:

For twin and quad lnbs it is also important how good the isolation is between ports.

I recently had to replace a megasat multifeed lnb because it shows glitches
in reception each time another lnb port is powered on. So you get pixellation on live tv each
time a recording starts or if another receiver switches channels

I replaced the LNB with a brand new venton rocket lnb which had similar problems, but strangely enough on
on other muxes.

I replaced it with an an older inverto lnb and the problem went away


So it would be nice to see some tests on that as well.
 

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Diavolo fitted today and I have more BBC HD Channels on 28E than the ONE I got with the Inverto Ultra.
Next I'll put the Ultra in place of the Premium on 15W and see if it improves or not.
 

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Strangely (well not so), the Diavolo market has been awash with clones.


For those understanding German

 

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I bought and compared it with Inverto, now I suggest that it is a clone. Could someone tell the difference between the original LNB and the clone
 

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Yesterday I set out to test the megasat diavolo both single and twin, the humax quad, the triax twin, inverto premium twin and the new inverto black ultra on an 80 centimetres dish. Both on the horizontal and vertical signals at 36 east. I will only give the readings on the three front runners.
11765 v 27500
Diavolo single 12.2 db
Diavolo twin 12.1db
Humax quad 11.9db

12284 h 27500
Diavolo single 12.9 db
Diavolo twin. 12.9 db
Humax quad. 12.5 db
I am far from my big dish so couldn't try the fringe signals. Unfortunately, I have already modified golden media and the mti to suit my prime focus dish so I didn't include them in the test.
 

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Yesterday I set out to test the megasat diavolo both single and twin, the humax quad, the triax twin, inverto premium twin and the new inverto black ultra on an 80 centimetres dish. Both on the horizontal and vertical signals at 36 east. I will only give the readings on the three front runners.
11765 v 27500
Diavolo single 12.2 db
Diavolo twin 12.1db
Humax quad 11.9db

12284 v 27500
Diavolo single 12.9 db
Diavolo twin. 12.9 db
Humax quad. 12.5 db
I am far from my big dish so couldn't try the fringe signals. Unfortunately, I have already modified golden media and the mti to suit my prime focus dish so I didn't include them in the test.
the 12284 is rather horizontal, sorry guys.
 

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I will only give the readings on the three front runners.
11765 v 27500
Diavolo single 12.2 db
Diavolo twin 12.1db
Humax quad 11.9db
@ymttt great test, the devil still winning :-Axechase
There was a big difference with the Inverto lnbs ?
 

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@ymttt great test, the devil still winning :-Axechase
There was a big difference with the Inverto lnbs ?
AtOM13, I will urge you to find time to compare the mti against the devil on a vertical transponder where the mti does so well.
 

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@ymttt thanks, but I was talking about Inverto lnbs : Black ultra and PLL
 

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The black ultra pll infact was the last in the test. It is however pertinent to add that I have opened its front cover and I can't tell if that contributed to its poor performance.
 

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It would also be interesting to be able to compare them with these two Inverto Black Ultra models.
They're old models, but they're a reference for receiving weak signals.
old Black ultra.jpg
 
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