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<blockquote data-quote="Expat" data-source="post: 2791" data-attributes="member: 175187"><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>ASTRA 2D RECEPTION 21/12/2001</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>IMPORTANT!</p><p>PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR EXACT LOCATION, DISH SIZE, LNB TYPE </p><p>& RECEIVER MODEL. THIS INFORMATION IS VERY IMPORTANT, IF WE ARE</p><p>WE TO HELP OTHERS WITH THEIR RECEPTION PROBLEMS! </p><p>IF YOU POST INFORMATION ABOUT RECEPTION OF THE OTHER ASTRA BIRDS,</p><p>PLEASE STATE IF ASTRA 2D IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR LOCATION!</p><p></p><p>I WILL BE OFF-LINE FROM 21-12-01 - 30-12-01</p><p>HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!</p><p>Expat</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>ASTRA 2D RECEPTION BROCHURE</p><p></p><p>An "e-brochure" is available for free download on the Satcure books</p><p>website (www.satcure-focus.com), and apparantly is the most</p><p>populat book they have at the moment, with around 150 downloads</p><p>a day.</p><p>(From YorkshireLad)</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>RECEPTION PATTERN?</p><p></p><p>Valb in Denmark writes,</p><p>"After fitting my new 0,4 LNB (Genesis) there hasn't been a clear sky - </p><p>cloudy and misty every day - which makes it hard to compare </p><p>the result of the new LNB compared to the old one when the weather was better, </p><p>but I have started to notice a pattern as to when 2D is available. </p><p>It seems to go in a four hour cycle 'though I haven't got up in the </p><p>middle of the night to measure the results.</p><p></p><p>OK from 2pm to 6pm</p><p>OK from soon after 10pm</p><p>OK at 6am</p><p>All times GMT </p><p></p><p>A report I read recently about tests done in Spain with different dish sizes </p><p>also mentioned fixed time slots where the signal from 2A and B north beams got weaker. </p><p>It would be interesting to hear the "scientific" explanation for this. </p><p>Although I know that the satellites move around a bit I don't think they have </p><p>a fixed path that they follow each day.</p><p>Are there any scientists out there who can explain what is going on?" </p><p>(from Valb in Denmark)</p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p></p><p>ITALIAN SIDESLOBE?</p><p></p><p>From posts, it would seem that Astra 2 D's footprint seems to like </p><p>the boot of Italy! Suprisingly small dish sizes for the north, 85cm! </p><p>No positive reports from Rome or further south....yet!</p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>SIDELOBE IN SWEDEN?</p><p></p><p>There is a 3dB difference in strength between Horizontal </p><p>and Vertical (Vertical weaker). </p><p>There seems to be a sidelobe in Sweden. PUFFIN WRITES, </p><p>"I remember on Astra 1 there was a sidelobe in South America somewhwere, </p><p>so it was actually possible to watch Sky in Argentina when Sky was analouge. </p><p>I seem also to remember another guy in the south of Sweden not </p><p>being able to pick up anything from 2D with a 1,8m dish. </p><p>On the other hand almost all the people I have heard </p><p>about in Stockholm get ITV with 85cm-1m dishes." </p><p>(From Puffin in Börlange, Sweden)</p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>RECEIVERS FOR GOOD FRINGE RECEPTION</p><p>Panasonic TUD 20 or 30 (NOT 31!)</p><p>Amstrad DRX 200 (newer model, same tuner as the Panasonic 30)</p><p>Grundig 310/2</p><p>Pace 2200 (anyone using this model?)</p><p></p><p>NO GOOD IN FRINGE AREAS</p><p>Pace 2500s</p><p>Panasonic TUD 31</p><p>Sony Receivers</p><p>KNOW OF ANY OTHERS?</p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>DENMARK</p><p>Aarhus 85 cm.</p><p>Copenhagen 1 m LNB Digistar 0.6db Pace 2500s (NO ASTRA 2D).</p><p>Hillerød 1.2 Offset, LNB Genesis 0.4db (No ITV 2 or Disney).</p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>FRANCE</p><p>Montpellier 60cm, Pace 2500b.</p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>GERMANY</p><p>Aachen 80 cm, signal strength 50/60 (10.891), 80/90 for 10.832 & 10906.</p><p>Haselund (about an hour from Denmark) 80cm.</p><p>Berlin 120cm, LNB 0.6dB (30% quality reading).</p><p>Brunsbüttel (Western Schleswig Holstein) 80 cm.</p><p>Dortmund & Cologne (Köln) 85 cm Panasonic 30, LNB 0.6db.</p><p>Frankfurt am Main 60cm.</p><p>Frankfurt am Main 90cm.</p><p>Lower Rhine 60cm, no recpetion during rain or snow.</p><p>With 75cm dish even with heavy rain/snow perfect reception.</p><p>Munich, just north of, 1 m, Genesis 0.4db (All 2D).</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>ITALY</p><p>Bologna 85 cm, Amstrad 100, LNB Syntec 2000 0.3db (NO ASTRA 2D).</p><p>Cassino (Lazio region) 120 cm, Pace receiver (NO ASTRA 2D).</p><p>Milan 85 cm (Some 2D Lose, Anglia transponder).</p><p>Parma Area 80 cm Panasonic 20 (2D in good weather).</p><p>Rome 1.2m, (NO ASTRA 2D).</p><p>Sondrio (70miles N.E.of Milan) 60cm, LNB 0.7db.</p><p>Vasto (Chieti, 50km south of Pescara) 2.4m Panasonic 30, LNB MTI 0.6db,</p><p>also problems with 2A (NO ASTRA 2D).</p><p>Verona 90cm .</p><p></p><p>Dish Sizes:- </p><p>Northern Italy, down as far as Parma: 90cm Dish ( 1.0CM) best.</p><p></p><p>NO VARIFICATION FOR ASTRA 2D SIGNALS, MAY HAVE TO BE LARGER!</p><p>Central Italy down as far as Rome: 1.2cm Dish ( 1.5Cm) best.</p><p>Southern Italy, down as far as R / Calabria: 1.8cm (2.0Cm) best.</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>NORWAY</p><p>Oslo 1.2 m.</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>SWEDEN</p><p>Börlange (WNW of Stockholm) 1.0 m Lenson Heath, LNB 0.5 dB LNB,</p><p>Panasonic TU-DSB 30 (lose in bad weather, no V transponders).</p><p>Lund 99 cm Panasonic 30 (NO ASTRA 2D).</p><p>Stockholm 85cm 1.0m dish.</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>SWITZERLAND</p><p>Basle 45 cm Digidish.</p><p>Zürich 53cm Arcon Sweetey, 2D lose in really bad weather.</p><p>Zürich 60cm Panasonic receiver, signal strength and quality 90%</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>SPAIN</p><p>Alicante 1.2 m Panasonic 30, LNB 0.7db (NO ASTRA 2D).</p><p>Ibiza 1.3m (lose from 7pm til morning).</p><p>West of Mabella 1.3m, silver Panasonic LNB 0.7db.</p><p>Mallorca (Eastside of island) 1.8m.</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>PORTUGAL</p><p>Albufeira, Algarve 1.3m, Panasonic 30 & Grundig 310, LNB 0.7db.</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>PLEASE INCLUDE LOCATION & THE EQUIPMENT BEING USED!</p><p>THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR THE INFORMATION, KEEP IT COMING! </p><p>YOU CAN MAIL ME AT: oblighty@yahoo.dk</p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>I WILL BE OFF-LINE FROM 21-12-01 - 30-12-01</p><p>HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!</p><p>Expat</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Expat, post: 2791, member: 175187"] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ASTRA 2D RECEPTION 21/12/2001 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT! PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR EXACT LOCATION, DISH SIZE, LNB TYPE & RECEIVER MODEL. THIS INFORMATION IS VERY IMPORTANT, IF WE ARE WE TO HELP OTHERS WITH THEIR RECEPTION PROBLEMS! IF YOU POST INFORMATION ABOUT RECEPTION OF THE OTHER ASTRA BIRDS, PLEASE STATE IF ASTRA 2D IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR LOCATION! I WILL BE OFF-LINE FROM 21-12-01 - 30-12-01 HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS! Expat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ASTRA 2D RECEPTION BROCHURE An "e-brochure" is available for free download on the Satcure books website (www.satcure-focus.com), and apparantly is the most populat book they have at the moment, with around 150 downloads a day. (From YorkshireLad) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- RECEPTION PATTERN? Valb in Denmark writes, "After fitting my new 0,4 LNB (Genesis) there hasn't been a clear sky - cloudy and misty every day - which makes it hard to compare the result of the new LNB compared to the old one when the weather was better, but I have started to notice a pattern as to when 2D is available. It seems to go in a four hour cycle 'though I haven't got up in the middle of the night to measure the results. OK from 2pm to 6pm OK from soon after 10pm OK at 6am All times GMT A report I read recently about tests done in Spain with different dish sizes also mentioned fixed time slots where the signal from 2A and B north beams got weaker. It would be interesting to hear the "scientific" explanation for this. Although I know that the satellites move around a bit I don't think they have a fixed path that they follow each day. Are there any scientists out there who can explain what is going on?" (from Valb in Denmark) -------------------------------------------------------------------- ITALIAN SIDESLOBE? From posts, it would seem that Astra 2 D's footprint seems to like the boot of Italy! Suprisingly small dish sizes for the north, 85cm! No positive reports from Rome or further south....yet! --------------------------------------------------------------------- SIDELOBE IN SWEDEN? There is a 3dB difference in strength between Horizontal and Vertical (Vertical weaker). There seems to be a sidelobe in Sweden. PUFFIN WRITES, "I remember on Astra 1 there was a sidelobe in South America somewhwere, so it was actually possible to watch Sky in Argentina when Sky was analouge. I seem also to remember another guy in the south of Sweden not being able to pick up anything from 2D with a 1,8m dish. On the other hand almost all the people I have heard about in Stockholm get ITV with 85cm-1m dishes." (From Puffin in Börlange, Sweden) --------------------------------------------------------------------- RECEIVERS FOR GOOD FRINGE RECEPTION Panasonic TUD 20 or 30 (NOT 31!) Amstrad DRX 200 (newer model, same tuner as the Panasonic 30) Grundig 310/2 Pace 2200 (anyone using this model?) NO GOOD IN FRINGE AREAS Pace 2500s Panasonic TUD 31 Sony Receivers KNOW OF ANY OTHERS? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- DENMARK Aarhus 85 cm. Copenhagen 1 m LNB Digistar 0.6db Pace 2500s (NO ASTRA 2D). Hillerød 1.2 Offset, LNB Genesis 0.4db (No ITV 2 or Disney). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- FRANCE Montpellier 60cm, Pace 2500b. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- GERMANY Aachen 80 cm, signal strength 50/60 (10.891), 80/90 for 10.832 & 10906. Haselund (about an hour from Denmark) 80cm. Berlin 120cm, LNB 0.6dB (30% quality reading). Brunsbüttel (Western Schleswig Holstein) 80 cm. Dortmund & Cologne (Köln) 85 cm Panasonic 30, LNB 0.6db. Frankfurt am Main 60cm. Frankfurt am Main 90cm. Lower Rhine 60cm, no recpetion during rain or snow. With 75cm dish even with heavy rain/snow perfect reception. Munich, just north of, 1 m, Genesis 0.4db (All 2D). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ITALY Bologna 85 cm, Amstrad 100, LNB Syntec 2000 0.3db (NO ASTRA 2D). Cassino (Lazio region) 120 cm, Pace receiver (NO ASTRA 2D). Milan 85 cm (Some 2D Lose, Anglia transponder). Parma Area 80 cm Panasonic 20 (2D in good weather). Rome 1.2m, (NO ASTRA 2D). Sondrio (70miles N.E.of Milan) 60cm, LNB 0.7db. Vasto (Chieti, 50km south of Pescara) 2.4m Panasonic 30, LNB MTI 0.6db, also problems with 2A (NO ASTRA 2D). Verona 90cm . Dish Sizes:- Northern Italy, down as far as Parma: 90cm Dish ( 1.0CM) best. NO VARIFICATION FOR ASTRA 2D SIGNALS, MAY HAVE TO BE LARGER! Central Italy down as far as Rome: 1.2cm Dish ( 1.5Cm) best. Southern Italy, down as far as R / Calabria: 1.8cm (2.0Cm) best. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NORWAY Oslo 1.2 m. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SWEDEN Börlange (WNW of Stockholm) 1.0 m Lenson Heath, LNB 0.5 dB LNB, Panasonic TU-DSB 30 (lose in bad weather, no V transponders). Lund 99 cm Panasonic 30 (NO ASTRA 2D). Stockholm 85cm 1.0m dish. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SWITZERLAND Basle 45 cm Digidish. Zürich 53cm Arcon Sweetey, 2D lose in really bad weather. Zürich 60cm Panasonic receiver, signal strength and quality 90% ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SPAIN Alicante 1.2 m Panasonic 30, LNB 0.7db (NO ASTRA 2D). Ibiza 1.3m (lose from 7pm til morning). West of Mabella 1.3m, silver Panasonic LNB 0.7db. Mallorca (Eastside of island) 1.8m. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PORTUGAL Albufeira, Algarve 1.3m, Panasonic 30 & Grundig 310, LNB 0.7db. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE INCLUDE LOCATION & THE EQUIPMENT BEING USED! THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR THE INFORMATION, KEEP IT COMING! YOU CAN MAIL ME AT: oblighty@yahoo.dk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I WILL BE OFF-LINE FROM 21-12-01 - 30-12-01 HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS! Expat [/QUOTE]
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