Astra 2F at 28E (at last!)

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vladan - we ask that people dont use image code for a very good reason - many people are on slow broadband and threads full of image tags can take FOREVER to open as the images download

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thanks and respect that but i cant put imag on server and try to answer fast but cant uploaded.

thanks again !!
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Huevos said:
The BBC were quite happy to transmit on 2D and that covered much more ground, so I can't see why they would be complaining now.
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I'm not sure we can conclude they were happy with it: 2D was older technology and you can't defeat the then state of the art, but merely have to work with it. More is possible now by way of restricting overspill, as we all know, so the BBC (et al) might feel obliged to take advantage of that. We don't really know, either way.
 
Tivù said:
I'm not sure we can conclude they were happy with it: 2D was older technology and you can't defeat the then state of the art, but merely have to work with it. More is possible now by way of restricting overspill, as we all know, so the BBC (et al) might feel obliged to take advantage of that. We don't really know, either way.
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I don't think the bbc are particularly interested on that.the signal from 2F is better in Southern Spain where there are many expats,they wouldn't have accepted that if they were so interested
 
Huevos said:
The BBC were quite happy to transmit on 2D and that covered much more ground, so I can't see why they would be complaining now.

As far as tweaking the beam that became impossible the moment they lit the blue touch paper. And as far as re-orientating the beam all that is going to do is hit the signal in the UK and change the favour of one external area, in place of another. Laws of physics apply. They are scientists, not magicians.
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Agreed its better to have largely non english speaking terrritories( France Spain) receiving the signal as opposed to Germany and Scandinavia where most have some command of the english language. I havent met a spaniard or French person yet who wants to watch UKTV. The only people wanting UKTV are the expats in France and Spain........ if they get it so what......many of them are retirees who have paid their licence fees for many years and just want some telly for a decade or so in the sun. As for the Netherlands and Belgium well you can get BBC on cable there anyway so if the signal spills there so what???

Back on topic I thought I saw a spike last night where the signal was better (see my post above) and the signal is now waxing and waning between 56-58% SNR but we have terrible winds here at the mo and the arm holding the LNB is moving a lot. I still believe I am on the edge of reception here in NE Frankfurt with a reasonable sized dish. Beyond me not far to the east there are many unhappy people. This spotbeam is probably better in terms of cut off east and west than 1KR`s spot was.................................
 
Tivù said:
I'm not sure we can conclude they were happy with it: 2D was older technology [...]
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The could have used encryption, but they chose FTA. With 2D there was over-spill; with 1N less; and with 2F even less still. Why would the BBC be unhappy. The over-spill just follows the contour lines of the official map.
 
Huevos said:
The could have used encryption, but they chose FTA. With 2D there was over-spill; with 1N less; and with 2F even less still. Why would the BBC be unhappy. The over-spill just follows the contour lines of the official map.
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They had encryption in those days, but decided they no longer wanted to pay a fortune to Sky each year. Then Astra2D was declared 'spotbeam' (after it was operational) and the rest is history. This is the first real designed attempt for a UK spotbeam .
 
Signal here in Cork, 60 cm sky oval dish on 11023 is Q= 79% ,S=99%, this is the same strength here as BBCI HD ON 1N. Any reports from Playa Flamenca 7 KM south of Torrevieja, Spain??
 
Huevos said:
The could have used encryption, but they chose FTA. With 2D there was over-spill; with 1N less; and with 2F even less still. Why would the BBC be unhappy. The over-spill just follows the contour lines of the official map.
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Theres also a political component to going fta. With any form of encryption it opens the way to Governmental interference by forcing them to go pay at some point in the future by removing the licence fee.

However thats a discussion for a different time and thread
 
zeeteefje said:
They had encryption in those days, but decided they no longer wanted to pay a fortune to Sky each year.
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Not that at all. It was deemed unfair that license holders had to pay a Sky sub to be able to receive BBC from satellite, which was the case at the time.
 
Reading the German forums there seems to be a spike in signal to the east and satellite 74 (he posts here too sometimes) is now claiming signal lock on 80cm dish in Hanover
 
Where do you find all this determination by the bbc to stop expat viewing? When the iplayer is available worldwide with a simple proxy or VPN
 
Mikesat2 said:
Signal here in Cork, 60 cm sky oval dish on 11023 is Q= 79% ,S=99%, this is the same strength here as BBCI HD ON 1N. Any reports from Playa Flamenca 7 KM south of Torrevieja, Spain??
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1.4M Prime focus OK
1.0M no reception
 
100km North of Munich., Germany 1 metre dish snr 45%, picture OK but occasional pixilation - normal is 79%
 
giving the new reading what is chance of getting a lockable picture during cloud on a 4/4.5m dish in TENERIFE ???
(its what the pirates use) thank you
 
dvdfilm said:
Where do you find all this determination by the bbc to stop expat viewing? When the iplayer is available worldwide with a simple proxy or VPN
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without sounding like a free ad you dont even need those .you can watch bbc iplayer with 100 % of bandwidth now ... my system uses it ..
 
TENERIFE-TV said:
giving the new reading what is chance of getting a lockable picture during cloud on a 4/4.5m dish in TENERIFE ???
(its what the pirates use) thank you
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its possible but i be more inclined to say 6m to really get it without pixaltion
 
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