Astra 2G at 28.2E: General Discussion

[william-1]

Just a few minor changes over the next few days as some transponder shuffle between 2E 2F & 2G.

http://www.a516digital.com/2015/06/freesat-epg-transfers-to-new-satellite.html

 

[M60]

Could the lower power on the ex-Eutelsat transponders be because it is 36MHz wide instead of 26MHz?

That shouldn't make a difference to the actual carrier level, ie shoulder height. I do know there's different power levels sold to SES's clients, reckon the Eutelsat deal on SES's craft is for the lowest available power to keep costs as close as they were for Eutelsat's uplink operators now compared to E28A.

 

[Tururu]

My results, north of Madrid, Spain/Mis resultados, norte de Madrid, España.

Madrid (spain) 22:00 GMT DB800S-HD 29-6-2015.

105 2G E - 11.224H - 16'0dB SNR100% AGC99% BER0 (=)
106 2G E - 11.225V - 16'0dB SNR100% AGC99% BER0 (=)
107 2G E - 11.264H - 17'0dB SNR100% AGC99% BER0 (=)
108 2G E - 11.265V - 17'5dB SNR100% AGC99% BER0 (=)
109 2F RU- 11.306H -  9'0dB SNR 56% AGC99% BER0 (=)
110 2F RU- 11.306V -  9'0dB SNR 56% AGC99% BER0 (=)
111 2F RU- 11.344H -  9'0dB SNR 56% AGC99% BER0 (=)
112 2F RU- 11.344V -  9'5dB SNR 59% AGC99% BER0 (=)
113 2E RU- 11.390H -  8'0dB SNR 50% AGC99% BER0(-2'5dB.)
114 2E RU- 11.390V -  9'0dB SNR 56% AGC99% BER0(-3'0dB.)
115 2E RU- 11.426H -  8'0dB SNR 50% AGC99% BER0 ------
116 2E RU- 11.426V -  9'0dB SNR 56% AGC99% BER0(-1'0dB.)

Madrid (spain) 20:15 GMT VU+DUO2 29-6-2015.

105 2G E - 11.224H - 14'1dB SNR 86% AGC79%
106 2G E - 11.225V - 15'0dB SNR 93% AGC79%
107 2G E - 11.264H - 14'4dB SNR 90% AGC79%
108 2G E - 11.265V - 14'6dB SNR 91% AGC79%
109 2F RU- 11.306H -  9'2dB SNR 57% AGC69%
110 2F RU- 11.306V -  9'3dB SNR 58% AGC69%
111 2F RU- 11.344H -  9'2dB SNR 57% AGC69%
112 2F RU- 11.344V -  9'4dB SNR 58% AGC69%
113 2E RU- 11.390H -  8'8dB SNR 54% AGC69%
114 2E RU- 11.390V -  9'1dB SNR 56% AGC69%
115 2E RU- 11.426H -  8'7dB SNR 53% AGC69%
116 2E RU- 11.426V -  9'1dB SNR 57% AGC69%

PS: Some photos VU + DUO2.

 

[timo_w2s]

Lyngsat has been updated and is showing E28A empty now but they haven't removed the temporary transponders that switched off yesterday. Otherwise it looks reasonably accurate now with the satellite allocations.

 

[Fredrik M]

For most transponders, the signal from 2G is similar to what we had from 2F here in southwestern Sweden. However, 11023H (my favorite!) is more difficult to receive than before and compared to e.g. 11097V. I wonder if the skew of 2G could be slightly different from 2F causing interference from the V data transponders to the 11023H? Does anybody have similar experience?

 

[dmaavrigdo]

For most transponders, the signal from 2G is similar to what we had from 2F here in southwestern Sweden. However, 11023H (my favorite!) is more difficult to receive than before and compared to e.g. 11097V. I wonder if the skew of 2G could be slightly different from 2F causing interference from the V data transponders to the 11023H? Does anybody have similar experience?

Here in Vansbro I get nothing on 11023H it was always the worst.

 

[Nalleman]

For most transponders, the signal from 2G is similar to what we had from 2F here in southwestern Sweden. However, 11023H (my favorite!) is more difficult to receive than before and compared to e.g. 11097V. I wonder if the skew of 2G could be slightly different from 2F causing interference from the V data transponders to the 11023H? Does anybody have similar experience?

At my place 2G is a bit stronger than 2F (might be due to the fact my dish is more optimized for 2G).

Some example of values (I will install new software in my receiver shortly showing dB values but for now you'll get SNR %).

2E
(the "old" UK-beam transponders have been a bit lower the last couple of days):
10758 V = 78-81 %
10773 H = 70-74 %
10847 V = 72-76 %

"New" UK
11386 H = 60-65 %
11426 V = 61-66 %

European
11 836 H = 89-91 %
12 480 V = 99 %

2F

"New" UK
11306 V = 57-63 %
11344 V = 59-65 %
11344 H = 55-59%

12422H = 48-56 % (been weaker than before the last couple of days)

European
12207 V = 90-92 %
12545H = 80-83 %

2G (UK-beam was stronger a couple of days ago)

UK
10964 H = 66-70 %
11023 H = 60-66 %
11126 V = 66-71 %

European

All TP:s = 99 %

Generally all UK beams are weakest in the evening (19.00-22.00)

 

[Archive4]

Here in Vansbro I get nothing on 11023H it was always the worst.

11023 is closest to the monster data signal on 11008. This signal will kill all around it if the lnb is even 1 degree out. Skew adjustment may cure this.

 

[Archive4]

At my place 2G is a bit stronger than 2F (might be due to the fact my dish is more optimized for 2G).

Some example of values (I will install new software in my receiver shortly showing dB values but for now you'll get SNR %).

2E
(the "old" UK-beam transponders have been a bit lower the last couple of days):
10758 V = 78-81 %
10773 H = 70-74 %
10847 V = 72-76 %

"New" UK
11386 H = 60-65 %
11426 V = 61-66 %

European
11 836 H = 89-91 %
12 480 V = 99 %

2F

"New" UK
11306 V = 57-63 %
11344 V = 59-65 %
11344 H = 55-59%

12422H = 48-56 % (been weaker than before the last couple of days)

European
12207 V = 90-92 %
12545H = 80-83 %

2G (UK-beam was stronger a couple of days ago)

UK
10964 H = 66-70 %
11023 H = 60-66 %
11126 V = 66-71 %

European

All TP:s = 99 %

Generally all UK beams are weakest in the evening (19.00-22.00)

Can I move in, no Emmerdale

 

[Nalleman]

Can I move in, no Emmerdale

Sure thing!

 

[Fredrik M]

Last July I lost 11023, I guess that is when the monster data signal was lit up. I carefully adjusted the skew and managed to regain the 11023 then. I will give it a try to adjust it again.

 

[Fredrik M]

Nalleman, here in Gothenburg things seem to be somewhat opposite to where you are: 2F and 2G being the strongest and 2E much weaker. We have fairly strong signal in the evening with a drop at lunch time (particularly on 2E).

 

[Archive4]

Skew, Skew, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grub!

 

[Tururu]

New tp's localized and did not see last night local time 1:00.
Nuevos tp's localizados y no los vi anoche 1:00 hora local.

11081H22000 5/6 DVB-S,VPID 2353. 2349, 2305, 3331, 2310, etc.
11110H 22000 5/6 DVB-S, MTUTV HD, CartoonNetwrk, Boomerang, CNN (Free), CN+1.

Looking, CNN is back/Mirando, CNN, etc es copias de 12520V22000 5/6.

Photos 02/07/2015 11:00 GMT this morning.
Fotos de esta mañana 11:00 GMT 2-7-2015.

 

[Ratchet]

The output of TPs 65 & 67 is the poorest I've seen yet on 2G. Roughly 1dB lower than 105 & 107 and almost 2dB lower than 103.

Edit: - Sorry, meant to post this in the general dicussion thread.
Mod edit: Moved for you

 

[Tururu]

Pietclock, M60 and Solly.

11081 H 22000 5/6 DVB-S,VPID 2353. 2349, 2305, 3331, 2310, etc.
11110 H 22000 5/6 DVB-S, MTUTV HD, CartoonNetwrk, Boomerang, CNN (Free), CN+1.
11552 H 22000 5/6 DVB-S, Capital TV,TV Shop, Record TV, Home Store, etc.
11566 V 22000 5/6 DVB-S, Horse & Count, RT, more>movies, etc.


PD:Buena pesca/Good fishing.

 

[Tururu]

I mentioned in the post: Astra 2G: Iberia & Balearics Reports
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Lo comente en el post: Astra 2G: Iberia & Balearics Reports


Astra2G movement is affecting small antennas to limit by Madrid (Spain) a partner reports that since 1 day, lost signal 11068V, 11097V and emit Stv 11126v Where hd, hd UTV, ITV and Channel 4 HD.
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El movimiento del Astra2G esta afectando a las pequeñas antenas al limite por Madrid (españa) un compañero reporta que desde hace 1 dia, perdio señal en 11068V, 11097V and emit Stv 11126v where hd, hd UTV, ITV and Channel 4 hd.

These channels are moved to the UK beam Astra2G/Estos canales se movieron al Astra2G beam UK el 17-6-2015.

See the circle of Astra2G, not wasted, the second graph allows you to see the variation of the orbital position, each circle is a day.
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Mirar el circulo del Astra2G, no tiene desperdicio, la segunda grafica permite ver la variacion de la posicion orbital, cada circulo es un dia.
http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/satellitemotion.php?26/171/0/40364


Leave a photo, they are updated daily/Dejo una foto, se actualizan diariamente (28.52 <==> 28.24).

Adjusted length values as usual/Ajustada la longitud, valores como siempre.
11067 = 9.50dB Señal/SNR59% AGC99% BER 0 ITV Encore HD (DVB-S2)
11097 = 9.00dB Señal/SNR56% AGC99% BER 0 21000/10/20/30 (ITV HD)(DVB-S2)
11126 = 9.50dB Señal/SNR59% AGC99% BER 1 Channel 4 HD (DVB-S)

PD:Buena pesca/Good fishing.

 

[timo_w2s]

I mentioned in the post: Astra 2G: Iberia & Balearics Reports
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Lo comente en el post: Astra 2G: Iberia & Balearics Reports


Astra2G movement is affecting small antennas to limit by Madrid (Spain) a partner reports that since 1 day, lost signal 11068V, 11097V and emit Stv 11126v Where hd, hd UTV, ITV and Channel 4 HD.
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El movimiento del Astra2G esta afectando a las pequeñas antenas al limite por Madrid (españa) un compañero reporta que desde hace 1 dia, perdio señal en 11068V, 11097V and emit Stv 11126v where hd, hd UTV, ITV and Channel 4 hd.

These channels are moved to the UK beam Astra2G/Estos canales se movieron al Astra2G beam UK el 17-6-2015.

See the circle of Astra2G, not wasted, the second graph allows you to see the variation of the orbital position, each circle is a day.
---------
Mirar el circulo del Astra2G, no tiene desperdicio, la segunda grafica permite ver la variacion de la posicion orbital, cada circulo es un dia.
http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/satellitemotion.php?26/171/0/40364


Leave a photo, they are updated daily/Dejo una foto, se actualizan diariamente (28.52 <==> 28.24).

Adjusted length values as usual/Ajustada la longitud, valores como siempre.
11067 = 9.50dB Señal/SNR59% AGC99% BER 0 ITV Encore HD (DVB-S2)
11097 = 9.00dB Señal/SNR56% AGC99% BER 0 21000/10/20/30 (ITV HD)(DVB-S2)
11126 = 9.50dB Señal/SNR59% AGC99% BER 1 Channel 4 HD (DVB-S)

PD:Buena pesca/Good fishing.

Hmm interesting, so it looks like 2G is on the move?

 

[timo_w2s]

11081 H,11110 H ,11552 H , 11566 V - what satellite are these on ????

Astra 2G

 

[popolon]

Hmm interesting, so it looks like 2G is on the move?

But satellitecalculations seems to show wrong 2f/2e/2g future movement. Those cannot be used as evidense, as those predict future, and that has not happened when i have previously checked what this site predict for normal orbit slot, e.g. for 2f .