Best receivers for weak transponders

[SimonE]

I think i will go either for GTMEDIA GT COMBO or octagon SF8008. I will be very disappointed if tuner of receiver like icone irone plus perform better than all this receivers.

I have a DR HD D15, an SF8008, and the GT Media Combo. The least sensitive is the DR.HD D15 and it won't recognise some signals the other two will. The SF8008 and the GT Media Combo are very similar and good. The DR.HD D15 can search within limits and has signal level in dBs. The LNB you use is important too particularly when looking for low symbol rate signals. Look for one with the phase lock loop design of local oscillator. When looking for feeds the GT Combo is a winner revealing most signals with minimum intervention by the user.

 

[stel883_]

And another test, with a weaker transponder.

 

[Channel Hopper]

I have a DR HD D15, an SF8008, and the GT Media Combo. The least sensitive is the DR.HD D15 and it won't recognise some signals the other two will. The SF8008 and the GT Media Combo are very similar and good. The DR.HD D15 can search within limits and has signal level in dBs. The LNB you use is important too particularly when looking for low symbol rate signals. Look for one with the phase lock loop design of local oscillator. When looking for feeds the GT Combo is a winner revealing most signals with minimum intervention by the user.

Out of interest, what is the lowest symbol rate transponder you have cleared with the GT Combo ?

 

[moonbase]

I have a DR HD D15, an SF8008, and the GT Media Combo. The least sensitive is the DR.HD D15 and it won't recognise some signals the other two will. The SF8008 and the GT Media Combo are very similar and good. The DR.HD D15 can search within limits and has signal level in dBs. The LNB you use is important too particularly when looking for low symbol rate signals. Look for one with the phase lock loop design of local oscillator. When looking for feeds the GT Combo is a winner revealing most signals with minimum intervention by the user.

Simon,

The Dr HD D15 is poor in comparison to their F15 model. I have both here and the D15 either struggles or fails on borderline signal levels that the F15 can lock.
It was a backward step when they rolled out the D15 in my peronal opinion.

Both the SF8008 and the GTMedia Combo have good sensitive tuners and are probably among the best of the current range of consumer grade receivers.

 

[SimonE]

Out of interest, what is the lowest symbol rate transponder you have cleared with the GT Combo ?

Channel Hopper, I think unfortunately the listings on either Lyngsat or Flysat may not be too accurate about low symbol rate signals. One that certainly works here is @23.5E 12639V 940 with a couple of DLF radio channels in it. @16E my HD Ranger found the Dutch stations on 11071H 375. The GT Media Combo won't lock that signal. If you want to suggest a signal to try please do and I'll give it a go. The SF8008 is much better with low symbol rate signals as long as there's no other signal nearby frequency wise. All noted on the D15 versus the F15 DR.HD receivers moonbase.

 

[Channel Hopper]

Channel Hopper, I think unfortunately the listings on either Lyngsat or Flysat may not be too accurate about low symbol rate signals. One that certainly works here is @23.5E 12639V 940 with a couple of DLF radio channels in it. @16E my HD Ranger found the Dutch stations on 11071H 375. The GT Media Combo won't lock that signal. If you want to suggest a signal to try please do and I'll give it a go. The SF8008 is much better with low symbol rate signals as long as there's no other signal nearby frequency wise. All noted on the D15 versus the F15 DR.HD receivers moonbase.

You should be able to get 5 West, 11.562(.2) H, where there is a five channel bouquet with SR 667.

I'm looking for something lower it will capture, perhaps in the next firmware version.

 

[stephan94]

Nostalgie with sr 543 is OK with the GTCombo

GTMedia GTCombo 4:2:2 receiver

Ah if you get it ok then I'll probably buy one, trouble is I have over a dozen sat boxes already eek ! Don't we all :D

www.satellites.co.uk

 

[Channel Hopper]

Nostalgie with sr 543 is OK with the GTCombo

GTMedia GTCombo 4:2:2 receiver

Ah if you get it ok then I'll probably buy one, trouble is I have over a dozen sat boxes already eek ! Don't we all :D

www.satellites.co.uk

I cannot get that here, though I was going to swop out the LNB this weekend for another BullsEye.

 

[SimonE]

I cannot get that here, though I was going to swop out the LNB this weekend for another BullsEye.

No luck here either with the 543 Nostalgie/NRJ with the GT combo but the HD Ranger locks OK with MER = 16.5dB.

 

[Adam792]

For NRJ/Nostalgie Belgique it could be worth trying 11454 as well as 11453. With my PC Card I have the centre frequency at 11453.79H so slightly closer to 454.

 

[MrDish1]

And what are the best receivers on Usb!?

 

[SimonE]

For NRJ/Nostalgie Belgique it could be worth trying 11454 as well as 11453. With my PC Card I have the centre frequency at 11453.79H so slightly closer to 454.

Good suggestion Adam. Tried that here without success.

 

[SimonE]

For NRJ/Nostalgie Belgique it could be worth trying 11454 as well as 11453. With my PC Card I have the centre frequency at 11453.79H so slightly closer to 454.

If you try the SF8008 for the 543 signal it works fine!

 

[newstar1974]

I have a DR HD D15, an SF8008, and the GT Media Combo. The least sensitive is the DR.HD D15 and it won't recognise some signals the other two will. The SF8008 and the GT Media Combo are very similar and good. The DR.HD D15 can search within limits and has signal level in dBs. The LNB you use is important too particularly when looking for low symbol rate signals. Look for one with the phase lock loop design of local oscillator. When looking for feeds the GT Combo is a winner revealing most signals with minimum intervention by the user.

I have alreday ordered GT media combo , i am going to get it at friday. Yesterday i made scan on 7 W . I got 15 Tv service from 11030V and 11658 V . The last scan was for one year ago got no channels.

 

[william-1]

The Ku band @ 7.3 west is much wider than your scan in post #74
I get several hundred with a 100cm Gibby + Octagon SX88+

Home - FlySat Satellite Chart

Follow the digital satellite frequencies on our daily updated site.

www.flysat.com

 

[newstar1974]

The Ku band @ 7.3 west is much wider than your scan in post #74
I get several hundred with a 100cm Gibby + Octagon SX88+

Home - FlySat Satellite Chart

Follow the digital satellite frequencies on our daily updated site.

www.flysat.com

Thank you for your reply and information. I get only 15 , is that because different location ? ( i live in northren sweden and you in UK ). I do not think such huge different is because you have gibby and i have channel master 1.2 , i think we both use inverto black ultra. I do not think that Octagon sx88+ explain the differnce , otherwise i will buy it tomorrow. By the way on 26E , the last 2 years i only get 11270 V . Very few people still use satellite dish in northren Sweden , theose who still use it they have fixed max 60cm . May be iam the only one who still use it as hobby.Thats why it is difficult for me to know if another one with same equipment as mine at my location can get better fringe reception.

 

[newstar1974]

Thank you for your reply and information. I get only 15 , is that because different location ? ( i live in northren sweden and you in UK ). I do not think such huge different is because you have gibby and i have channel master 1.2 , i think we both use inverto black ultra. I do not think that Octagon sx88+ explain the differnce , otherwise i will buy it tomorrow. By the way on 26E , the last 2 years i only get 11270 V . Very few people still use satellite dish in northren Sweden , theose who still use it they have fixed max 60cm . May be iam the only one who still use it as hobby.Thats why it is difficult for me to know if another one with same equipment as mine at my location can get better fringe reception.

I got GTmedia combo. tested it on some weak frequencies. It is slightly more senstive than other receiver i have . It is sad that i do not have
TM5302 or Octagon SX88+ HD Optima to compare it with GTmedia combo.

 

[ymttt]

Hmm, in a quick test of a Dr HD F15 and a TM-5402 (M3) side by side on the same frequency the F15 maintains a constant readout of the signal level even though it is below the level required for a lock.
The TM-5402 (M3) fails to maintain a constant readout and gives only a sporadic sub second flicker of nothing useful.

TM-5402 (M3) simply cannot compete against an F15.

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Moonbase, in fact I disagree with this conclusion on f15 and TM-5402 m3. Receivers in my experience have different characteristics base on their software. One can only conclude tuner sensitivity where one receiver has a lock and the other didn't. I had the tm 5402 m3 and the Dr d15. Tuner sensitivity was same but the d15 allowed me see the signal early, though no lock while the technomate will show nothing but in the end, both will lock at same time, making the d15 a far better choice for hunting. However, for tuner sensitivity, the octagon sf8008, starsat 200hd extreme and axhd60 are equal and far better than both d15 and TM-5402 m3. Still have the tm but problem with d15 video board issue, if someone can help. Tried getting one years back but as soon as the guy at Dr noticed I was in Ghana, Africa, he said they didn't support China products and never listened to my explanation that I got the receiver from Europe. I still have TM-5402 m2 but the scanner is very poor, and if one manages to input the channels onto the by other means, the tuner was good enough to hold.

 

[ymttt]

I have a DR HD D15, an SF8008, and the GT Media Combo. The least sensitive is the DR.HD D15 and it won't recognise some signals the other two will. The SF8008 and the GT Media Combo are very similar and good. The DR.HD D15 can search within limits and has signal level in dBs. The LNB you use is important too particularly when looking for low symbol rate signals. Look for one with the phase lock loop design of local oscillator. When looking for feeds the GT Combo is a winner revealing most signals with minimum intervention by the user.

This confirm my findings on octagon sf8008 and drhd d15 which particular pll lnb is the winner in your experience. Trying to get my first pll lnb with my beloved mti highline getting extinct.

 

[SimonE]

ymttt, my best PLL LNB comes from Octagon. Its the OSLO version.