DVI to HDMI cable - quality?

As a small ray of sunshine I believe that BBC HD hardly ever (never?) uses HDCP so that may show correctly. If you're going to $ly HD though...
 
As a small ray of sunshine I believe that BBC HD hardly ever (never?) uses HDCP so that may show correctly. If you're going to $ly HD though...
 
Was thinking more Dreambox or AzBox.
 
Was thinking more Dreambox or AzBox.
 
i think no satellite receivers use DHCP, sky don't use it on their boxes and all it does it perform a handshake at the end the signal gets received at to say whether or not the data packet is sufficient or not, if it is then it gets accepted otherwise it gets destroyed.

Yes satellite boxes such as them from sky do output via HDMI but they don't use DHCP as far as i am aware, however your television will use it when accepting the signal from the satellite receiver over HDMI.

I think that is right.
 
i think no satellite receivers use DHCP, sky don't use it on their boxes and all it does it perform a handshake at the end the signal gets received at to say whether or not the data packet is sufficient or not, if it is then it gets accepted otherwise it gets destroyed.

Yes satellite boxes such as them from sky do output via HDMI but they don't use DHCP as far as i am aware, however your television will use it when accepting the signal from the satellite receiver over HDMI.

I think that is right.
 
The Sky HD channels require HDCP whether you use DVI or HDMI.

From the "What do I need to use Sky+HD?" page
Your Sky+HD box is designed to work with TVs that carry the HD ready logo. You can use a TV without the HD ready logo as long as it has these technical features:
· The screen must have a minimum native resolution of 720 lines in wide aspect ratio.
· The screen must be able to receive high definition pictures by either a DVI (with HDCP), or an HDMI (with HDCP).
· The TV must be able to display both 1080i/25 and 720p/50.
Click to expand...

I'd expect other paid HD services to require HDCP support as well.

Back on topic, best thing is to check the included cable. If it's long enough and all looks fine to your eyes, don't waste money on another one.
At normal lengths <= 3m paying more than £10 is a con. For 10+ metre lengths then the money can get silly, but may require repeaters rather than stupidly expensive cables. A HDMI signal drop as small as 0.3 volts (ie < 4.7V) can break up the picture.
 
Rick1980:
If you use a DM800, the output is DVI, so you use a DVI to DVI cable and will have no problems watching HD on your TV (if I understand your problem correctly). You are supplied with a HDMI to DVI cable with the DM800, but you could use a DVI to DVI instead and it should work.
 
Thanks Shumifan, thats good news. Thanks:-thumbup
 
Rick

Although DVI doesn't support HDCP completely there's still a possibilty that you'll get stuffed by it at the end.

Don't forget that HDCP is there to protect the big film studios' revenue income. There will be some "collateral damage" with people unable to watch a perfectly legal HD source but they don't care about that.

Put "HDCP problems" into Google and see what I mean.
 
Been doing alot of research this morning on the subject. Found a product called HD Fury which will convert a HDMI/DVI HDCP digital signal into VGA analogue. I know the TV will display 1080p from VGA as I have used it with PC and Skystar to watch HD.

I realise that I may loose a little quality but info on the web is not much. So i've ordered one and an AzBox Premium. Hopefully this will sort me out, If not I'll use the AzBox on my bedroom TV which is HD Ready. Hopefully I will have both for xmas so I will have myself a merry HD christmas :-HoHo.

I'll post back with the results. Hopefully it will help others who have a perfectly good TV without HDCP.

Thanks for the replies all, your info has been very helpful. :-snowman
 
It may possibly be what you've already found but try putting "hdcp stripping" into Google as well.
 
I am currently using a cheap (£3) HDMI cable for my BluRay player and I am getting regular white flashes on the TV. This looks like it might be a cable problem as I dont suffer from the same from my Dreambox. So I will replace the cable with a more expensive cable and see how it goes.
It is worthwhile to note that the BR player plays at 1080p while the Dreambox is only 1080i so the bitrate accross the cable is much higher from the BR player than from the Dreambox, and this might be why the problem is only visible from the BR player. Also the Dreambox cable looks like a higher quality cable (thicker).
I will post the result here.
 
Just swap the cables between the Dreambox and the BD player and see whether that helps or whether the white flashes move with the cable.

Thicker doesn't necessarily mean better quality. The connector on the end and how they're attached is probably a weaker point.
 
Can't swap the cables; one is HDMI/HDMI other is HDMI/DVI and the TV and BluRay neither has DVI.
 
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