Es’hail 2 25.5e

Marcus_21

Marcus_21

Member
Messages
286
Location
Naples, Italy
My Satellite Setup
Motorized dish Gibertini 150 cm + LNB black ultra twin + actuator 24" + GBOX V3000... Motorized dish Gibertini 125 cm + LNB black ultra twin + actuator 18" + V-Box II.
My Location
40.7N - 14.5E
Yesterday he arrived at about 22,5~23°E, and performed a maneuver.... now it is about 23.5°E with slight movement to the east.
 
aceb

aceb

Specialist Contributor
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1,467
My Satellite Setup
Prof Tuner 7301 /
1.25m Gibertini + Inverto B.Ultra/C1W, Moteck H180, 68.5E-67W Ku/C-Band /
1.8m Precision PF + ESX241/Inverto Black Pro, 66E-63W Ku/C-band /
2.4m Fortec Star+Titanium C1W/Pride plate, 49E-58W
My Location
Sussex
Marcus_21

Marcus_21

Member
Messages
286
Location
Naples, Italy
My Satellite Setup
Motorized dish Gibertini 150 cm + LNB black ultra twin + actuator 24" + GBOX V3000... Motorized dish Gibertini 125 cm + LNB black ultra twin + actuator 18" + V-Box II.
My Location
40.7N - 14.5E
Now it is about 23,8°E, and it has also activated the second telemetry, frequency 11205,00 RHCP.
 

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Channel Hopper

Channel Hopper

Suffering fools, so you don't have to.
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26,744
My Satellite Setup
A little less analogue, and a lot more crap.
My Location
UK South
Im holding my Fracc Penta back for this project - Im l;ooking forward to the challenge of receiving amateur tv off it :)

Oooerrrr missus.
 
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s-band

Specialist Contributor
Messages
796
My Satellite Setup
1.5m IRTE PF, Octagon OSLO external Ref., TBS6983,
Various L, S, C, X & Ka bits. 1.2m S/X/Ku/Ka Prodelin on Az-El
My Location
SE UK
Anyone know how low the TBS6925 will go?
The 6983/6903 have the STV09X chip set which will go down to 144MHz (not with streamreader which is limited to 250MHz) and is also used in the tuner used in the MiniTiouner. I don't know what the 6925 has. I'd just set the .ini for the full range and see what it does. Set CS/EBSPro to L band and full range with an LNB attached. It will probably flat line where it doesn't work.

In the case of the 69x3s, beware: If running below ~900MHz and you have strong signals above ~900MHz you will get them aliasing down below 900. It's not normally a problem for 10GHz ham use but with Es'hail there may be TV >900MHz. I sometimes run it with a low pass filter (but turn the LNB bias off or use a DC block otherwise there may be smoke)

As an aside, there must be some normal sat boxes that have the Serit tuner as per MiniTiouner Serit tuner - BATC Wiki. Anyone know of one?
 
hvdh

hvdh

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Messages
1,916
My Satellite Setup
Dr.HD F16, TBS 6925, T-55, Laminas 120 cm
My Location
Oss, NL (5.5°E 51.8°N)
Finally, a TLE appeared yeaterday evening, Es'hail 2 is stationary at 24.0°E, apparently the in-orbit test location.
 
SimonE

SimonE

Regular Member
Messages
38
My Satellite Setup
1.2m CM dish,Supermount 1224 H-H rotator, Azbox Premium +, DR.HD D15, Ku LNB:Octagon optima, C Band: Titanium C1W-PLL, Ka Band: XMW R9216AF with FD9000 feedhorn,Inverto Saorsat LNB and Inverto Ka/Ku LNB . HP Spec An.
My Location
Gloucestershire, UK
Now it is about 23,8°E, and it has also activated the second telemetry, frequency 11205,00 RHCP.
This evening I find both beacons absent. Anyone else find the same?
 
RustySpoons

RustySpoons

Sleepy Hollow
Messages
2,207
My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 50W829 DVB-S2 Tuner
My Location
South Wales
The 6983/6903 have the STV09X chip set which will go down to 144MHz (not with streamreader which is limited to 250MHz) and is also used in the tuner used in the MiniTiouner. I don't know what the 6925 has. I'd just set the .ini for the full range and see what it does. Set CS/EBSPro to L band and full range with an LNB attached. It will probably flat line where it doesn't work.

In the case of the 69x3s, beware: If running below ~900MHz and you have strong signals above ~900MHz you will get them aliasing down below 900. It's not normally a problem for 10GHz ham use but with Es'hail there may be TV >900MHz. I sometimes run it with a low pass filter (but turn the LNB bias off or use a DC block otherwise there may be smoke)

As an aside, there must be some normal sat boxes that have the Serit tuner as per MiniTiouner Serit tuner - BATC Wiki. Anyone know of one?
I've only seen half Nim Serit tuners in sat boxes, I do actually have a MiniTiouner here however!
One thing I will say, Serit are very helpful when I needed a replacement tuner for a sat box, excellent customer support from their Hong Kong office.
 
Marcus_21

Marcus_21

Member
Messages
286
Location
Naples, Italy
My Satellite Setup
Motorized dish Gibertini 150 cm + LNB black ultra twin + actuator 24" + GBOX V3000... Motorized dish Gibertini 125 cm + LNB black ultra twin + actuator 18" + V-Box II.
My Location
40.7N - 14.5E
This evening I find both beacons absent. Anyone else find the same?
Telemetries are switched to on-station mode. Linear polarity and MENA beam... 10706.00 V and 11205.00 H.

Previously they were on the omnidirectional beam.
 
SimonE

SimonE

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Messages
38
My Satellite Setup
1.2m CM dish,Supermount 1224 H-H rotator, Azbox Premium +, DR.HD D15, Ku LNB:Octagon optima, C Band: Titanium C1W-PLL, Ka Band: XMW R9216AF with FD9000 feedhorn,Inverto Saorsat LNB and Inverto Ka/Ku LNB . HP Spec An.
My Location
Gloucestershire, UK
Telemetries are switched to on-station mode. Linear polarity and MENA beam... 10706.00 V and 11205.00 H.

Previously they were on the omnidirectional beam.
Thanks Marcus_21. Transponders tests going on this morning. eg 10724V.
 
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flie-DZ

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4
My Satellite Setup
tbs5927
My Location
Algeria
still there
11301 V & 10823H
 

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hvdh

hvdh

Specialist Contributor
Messages
1,916
My Satellite Setup
Dr.HD F16, TBS 6925, T-55, Laminas 120 cm
My Location
Oss, NL (5.5°E 51.8°N)
Es'hail 2 arrival at final location 25.9°E must have happened yesterday, now also confirmed by TLE.
 
Llew

Llew

cerca trova...
Staff member
Messages
14,662
My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
Anyone know how low the TBS6925 will go?
Mine doesn't reach below 10545 MHz, so unlikely to be much good for receiving the AMSAT transmissions.

BTW, a converter such as the Zinwell SUP-2400, which I have used with a US DirecTV Ka LNB for shifting its low IF output to the 950-2150 range, is ideal for use here. No need to open up your LNB to change its local oscillator.
A small modification is required to the unit, a wire or two to solder in. Widely available for a few quid from the States, an online search will bring up loads of sellers.

My Promax analyser has the usual 950-2150 IF range which cannot be extended, so I used this with the SUP-2400 for seeing if I can go down to, for instance 10000 MHz. An Octagon Optima OTLSO PLL LNBF was used for reception of signals generated by a VMA Spectrum Analyser.

Works fine. Obviously, without a relevant transmission yet from ES'Hail 2, I have to use the Promax to show the results with just the signal from the VMA source, rather than any STB etc. The SUP-2400 spectrum output is reversed, so it has to be taken account of when we convert the frequencies to a LOF figure in whichever receiver we use.

To find the LO frequency to set in a receiver for a specific received transmission, here's an example for 10000 MHz :-

10000 MHz minus 9750 MHz (LNB's LO) = 250 MHz.

Reversed spectrum of the SUP's 2400 MHz minus 250 MHz = 2150 MHZ. That's on the edge of your receiver;'s IF range!

For the LO figure to put in your receiver, 10000-2150 = 7850 MHz.
 

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s-band

Specialist Contributor
Messages
796
My Satellite Setup
1.5m IRTE PF, Octagon OSLO external Ref., TBS6983,
Various L, S, C, X & Ka bits. 1.2m S/X/Ku/Ka Prodelin on Az-El
My Location
SE UK
10495 DVB-S2 QPSK 6500ks/s 5/6
Test transmission in wide band amateur transponder
Octagon OSLO, Unmodified RF Section but with C120 & TCXO mods.

eh2-2.JPG
 
Llew

Llew

cerca trova...
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Messages
14,662
My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
Test up.
10494.9H SR 6498 DVB-S2 QPSK FEC 1/2 Video Test Loop

Unmodded Octagon Oslo, taking advantage of the Crazyscan streamreader's enhanced IF range option. Triax TD88.

Edit: s-band faster to post up :)

Es'Hail Oscar Test.JPG
 
John

John

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Location
North Nottinghamshire.
My Satellite Setup
Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
Test up.
10494.9H SR 6498 DVB-S2 QPSK FEC 1/2 Video Test Loop

Unmodded Octagon Oslo, taking advantage of the Crazyscan streamreader's enhanced IF range option. Triax TD88.

Edit: s-band faster to post up :)

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Help me out Llew, Graham - - which version is the CS Streamreader for enhanced IF range please.
 
Llew

Llew

cerca trova...
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Messages
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My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
Help me out Llew, Graham - - which version is the CS Streamreader for enhanced IF range please.
1.2.4.36 John. What's yours?
 
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s-band

Specialist Contributor
Messages
796
My Satellite Setup
1.5m IRTE PF, Octagon OSLO external Ref., TBS6983,
Various L, S, C, X & Ka bits. 1.2m S/X/Ku/Ka Prodelin on Az-El
My Location
SE UK
@John
CS 1.0.2.147
SR 1.2.4.36
.ini
Code:
;! Change IF range (default 950-2150MHz)
IFStart=250
IFStop=2350
LNBMid=9500
;LNBStk=21000
 
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