Es’hail 2 25.5e

Llew

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Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
Test with Inverto KaKu PLL LNBF (unmodded) on Gibby 1.2M.

Es'Hail 2 10495H with KaKu LNB.JPG
 
John

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Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
1.2.4.36 John. What's yours?



Sorry Llew - got side tracked, I have CS on two machines, one is 1.0.2.160 & the other is 1.0.2.156
 
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s-band

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1.5m IRTE PF, Octagon OSLO external Ref., TBS6983,
Various L, S, C, X & Ka bits. 1.2m S/X/Ku/Ka Prodelin on Az-El
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SE UK
I tried the 1.2m Prodelin with optimised probe and locked OSLO. Slight problem - it is precisely aligned so there's a tree between the dish and 26E. However, it shows what 1/2 FEC can do - no beak up at 1.8dB SNR.
eh2-3_behind-tree.JPG
 
Llew

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Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
Sorry Llew - got side tracked, I have CS on two machines, one is 1.0.2.160 & the other is 1.0.2.156
My CS is 1.0.2.146 John. With SR 1.2.4.36.
 
satesco

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seven antennas,one toroidal with 16 lnbs,
6 satellite receivers,2 Meters,9 PC cards(tbs6983,6903,6590,6522,6209,2603,6909X,6903X,skystar hd2),2 tuners usb-tbs5927,Skystar HD.
Satellite reception between 100.5E-50.0W
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Sorry Llew - got side tracked, I have CS on two machines, one is 1.0.2.160 & the other is 1.0.2.156
Try this CS 1.0.2.146 and SR 1.2.4.36
Take it from here

My CS is 1.0.2.146 John. With SR 1.2.4.36.
What is the local oscillator for 10495?
 
Captain Jack

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Interesting! Wonder how long till we see user transmissions..
 
Llew

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My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
What is the local oscillator for 10495?
9750 for my Inverto KaKu and Octo LNBFs. That's using the TBS 6983 and Crazyscan.
 
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flie-DZ

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Llew

Llew

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My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
A modded SUP-2400 downconverter can be used for receivers with the default IF range ( for instance my Promax spectrum analyser). The LOF to enter in the receiver in this case will be 8840 MHz -

Es'Hail 2 WB test frequency with SUP2400 modded downconverter - LOF for receivers with only default IF range (950-2150)

10495-9750 = 745

2400-745 = 1655

10495-1655 = 8840 LOF

10495H Promax.JPG
 
satosk

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That`s a great finding guys.
But I`ve got something special for you `cause as far as I see, everybody is using just a standard KU band LNB for this low frequency.

I do not wanna make advertising for the manufacturer of the LNB, but Peon keeps looking forward and is always a bit ahead, so he has the LNB designed for this frequency range.
Actually that LNB designed for 10-10.7 GHz has been lying in the drawer since 12/2016 and waiting for its time to come...

There`s also another LNB that goes pretty above 12.75 Ghz range, too.
As it was said, Peon is always prepared for fishing no matter what band we`ll talk about.


My thanks for pictures go to Peon.
Pictures have been edited for personal/advert reasons.

Extended Ku band LNBs order.jpg Extended Ku band LNB order.jpg 10.0-10.70 GHz LNB.JPG 10.0-10.70 GHz LNB (details).JPG
 
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satosk

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Also, what do you think about the second frequency that appears on Peon`s scan?
The scan was performed on standard LNB not the one mentioned above.
Can anybody else see 10598 H?

25,5e Ku sub. 10598 H.jpg
 
Llew

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My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
Also, what do you think about the second frequency that appears on Peon`s scan?
The scan was performed on standard LNB not the one mentioned above.
Can anybody else see 10598 H?

View attachment 122852
LNB's 10.600 GHz local oscillator.
 
satosk

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This is exactly what my colleague Marval450 mentioned to me. It may be true as there is no info about any transponder in this range on the official site, but I posted that picture because there is no sign of the "LO" in the Flie`s screenshot.

But an explanation may be that he uses a single band LNB...
 
John

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Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
... Here's one for you Llew, can you see this on Vertical just in case i'm going crazy. Keeps ramping up and down but fairly constant level at the moment.
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Ham Sat. Vertical. - reduced..jpg
 
John

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Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
... and also this one on Hor, at 10.491Ham Sat.. Hor .. reduced...jpg
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Llew

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My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
... and also this one on Hor, at 10.491View attachment 122854
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Yes, I have that one on vertical, the same frequency exactly. Something from the SUP-2400 maybe?

No extra side peak on horizontal though.
 
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s-band

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1.5m IRTE PF, Octagon OSLO external Ref., TBS6983,
Various L, S, C, X & Ka bits. 1.2m S/X/Ku/Ka Prodelin on Az-El
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SE UK
10489.5-10490V is the narrow band TP with CW, data & SSB hence rapid changes. It is active now and open for use.

<edit> See band plan https://wiki.batc.org.uk/images/b/bf/Eshail2_DATV_Bandplan_V1.pdf

@John You are seeing a strong signal or 2 on top of the 500kHz of transponder noise.

In the plot the thin red line is CW (Morse) and the wider lines in the centre are SSB. 10490 is an Airspy spurious.

@satosk, no idea what the thing at 10598 is although there are terrestrial radars and intruder alarms etc around 10.6-10.7GHz.

es2_narrow.PNG
 
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John

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Elite 2.2 PF - CM1.8 - CM1.2 - Gibertini 1.25.
Ku - Ka -C & Ext C.
PC cards-TM5402 receivers.
Promax FSM.
My Location
North Nottinghamshire.
... meant to add Llew - running with just a lash up with a Supp convertor into the Promax comming off the Octogon pll on the 1.2 Gibby.

** Edit: didn't see your post Llew re: the Supp before.
 
Llew

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My Satellite Setup
Triple Dragon, Dreambox 8000, Echostar AD3000ip, TBS6522,6925,6983 PCie cards.
Gibertini 1.25m motorised dish driven by the AD3000, with either Inverto BU Quad or Norsat / XMW Ka LNBs . SMW 1.05m + 3 other dishes. Speccy: Promax HD Ranger+
My Location
The Flatlands of East Anglia
no idea what the thing at 10598 is although there are terrestrial radars and intruder alarms etc around 10.6-10.7GHz.
That LNB being used has a LO generating 10.600 GHz, whether by a DRO or via an XTAL. so possibly showing in the scan. Certainly I get that at 10.600 if I try to use, say, an Inverto BU.
 
fereshte

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2,30m prime focus dish with 3 LNBs - C ( Linear plus Circular ) and KU ( Linear ) ; 2,05m prime focus dish - KU circular and in future hopefully - ka band - 103E - 50W ; Octagon SF4008 UHD ; Edision Primo IP ; Inverto Flange white series ; Invacom quad; 36" motors; Especta and Moteck satellite positioners.
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Hi everybody ! This is quite new and interesting for me, I am using octagon sf4008 uhd and DRO EK-Ekselans LNB Quad, is it possible to catch this frequency on the system I mentioned above - first of all, how I have to make the necessary adjustments in the receiver and therefore - is this LNB able to catch such a frequency ? Thanks !
 
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