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<blockquote data-quote="wolsty" data-source="post: 19721" data-attributes="member: 175166"><p>@ Munkey</p><p></p><p>The problem with this issue is that it's not a legitimate question. The fear of eternal damnation hinges on the belief that there might be a God. You might as well ask: 'If there are men on Mars and they come to Earth, will they be friendly?' Or how about debating how many angels may sit on the head of a pin? Or did Christ own the clothes he wore?</p><p></p><p>An hypothesis based on a false premise gives, at best, a nonsensical answer. At worst, it gives an incorrect or misleading one.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, the world is full of people who want to turn superstition into organised religion with which they can hold us all in awe (and, thereby, keep us all quiet and biddable). The Theists love such sophistry, because it allows them to present 'expanations' of contradictions which any thinking person finds incompatible with rational thought.</p><p></p><p>If you apply Occam's Razor (the simplest explanation is the one most likely to be true) and work from the starting point of there being no God (after all, there is no evidence for such a belief), then Dougal's question has no meaning. If it has no meaning, you can explain the hoorors of the world as chance or the result of the folly and brutality of individuals.</p><p></p><p>My advice is to continue with the atheism, take responsibility for your own actions, read some of Stephen Dawkins' books and sleep easy. The evils of this world are not visited on us by a supernatural power and we won't be called to account for not believing in such a preposterous construct.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wolsty, post: 19721, member: 175166"] @ Munkey The problem with this issue is that it's not a legitimate question. The fear of eternal damnation hinges on the belief that there might be a God. You might as well ask: 'If there are men on Mars and they come to Earth, will they be friendly?' Or how about debating how many angels may sit on the head of a pin? Or did Christ own the clothes he wore? An hypothesis based on a false premise gives, at best, a nonsensical answer. At worst, it gives an incorrect or misleading one. Unfortunately, the world is full of people who want to turn superstition into organised religion with which they can hold us all in awe (and, thereby, keep us all quiet and biddable). The Theists love such sophistry, because it allows them to present 'expanations' of contradictions which any thinking person finds incompatible with rational thought. If you apply Occam's Razor (the simplest explanation is the one most likely to be true) and work from the starting point of there being no God (after all, there is no evidence for such a belief), then Dougal's question has no meaning. If it has no meaning, you can explain the hoorors of the world as chance or the result of the folly and brutality of individuals. My advice is to continue with the atheism, take responsibility for your own actions, read some of Stephen Dawkins' books and sleep easy. The evils of this world are not visited on us by a supernatural power and we won't be called to account for not believing in such a preposterous construct. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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