Grammar, Pronunciation - Time for a rant.

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Salty25 said:
'innit' is meant to be confirmation of understand ("do you understand what I am saying?"), but I have to admit it does become bloody annoying when people go OTT with it :p.

Also, you have to remember that speech and sentence structure changes are you go through life. The reasons for this are unclear, but it's certainly the case that an 14yo, a 40yo, and an 80yo form setences differently.

That's why grandparents talking to teenagers is so hilarious - they don't understand a word each other are saying :-rofl2.

I think we're all aware of the intention of the innit at the end of every sentence, similarly the HRTs and y'knows, all being formed out of habit, but totally unnecessary.

Teenagers have no problems whatsoever understanding what their grandparents are saying, they know and fully understand standard English, it is just that they choose not to use it, particularly when they are with their bro's (sic).

My sentence structures in my fifties are no different from people I am aquainted with who are in their 90s, similarly, my nephews and nieces, even my great niece, speak no differently. Their mode of speech only seems to change due to peer pressure and their need to not be flagged up as different.

Fortunately most of the bright ones grow out of the necessity to utilise pseudo street talk. I find it quite amusing to hear a surrey comprehensive school student talking as if he were brought up in the toughest part of Harlem or Watts, particularly when his dad is an accountant and his mum a marketing manager. ;)
 

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rolfw said:
I think we're all aware of the intention of the innit at the end of every sentence, similarly the HRTs and y'knows, all being formed out of habit, but totally unnecessary.

Teenagers have no problems whatsoever understanding what their grandparents are saying, they know and fully understand standard English, it is just that they choose not to use it, particularly when they are with their bro's (sic).

Yeah, my grandparent comment was just comedy, but hand on heart I've personally heard conversations where the whole thing is "excuse me". Teenagers are teenagers, they'll use the lingo that identifies them with their friends.

My sentence structures in my fifties are no different from people I am aquainted with who are in their 90s, similarly, my nephews and nieces, even my great niece, speak no differently. Their mode of speech only seems to change due to peer pressure and their need to not be flagged up as different.

Definitely, everyone adapts. I should have explained that it changes depending on who you're speaking to (pretty obvious), but there does tend to be an underlying pattern, even if very faint. Not much different then accents, which we can all turn them on and off mostly if we need to.

Fortunately most of the bright ones grow out of the necessity to utilise pseudo street talk. I find it quite amusing to hear a surrey comprehensive school student talking as if he were brought up in the toughest part of Harlem or Watts, particularly when his dad is an accountant and his mum a marketing manager. ;)

Don't get me started, Grammar school kids are chronic for this :-doh! It really makes you wanna bust a cap in their ass :p
 

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I could go off on a rant that would last for days on this subject so it's probably not wise to bait me.

But I hate it when people say "I'll be with you momentarily" when they mean soon, when they say that they "literally lost their head" when they mean figuratively and I absolutely loathe the glottal stop T that is used in Eastenders and the like "I'll have a pint of bi'er".
 
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