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<blockquote data-quote="Gizmo2000" data-source="post: 19451" data-attributes="member: 175745">First off i haven't bought any cams. My receiver has built in Irdeto and Viacess.I bought an ice crypt cam as i was told it was the same as a MM but also had built in No Zap. However my receiver wouldn't recognise the cam. I took the receiver in to Heathrow systems and they too came to the conclusion the icecrypt was no good for my receiver. I then paid an extra £20 and they changed it for a Matrix cam which i was told was the same as a MM.My receiver if it doesn't decode the picture will come up with one of two screens. It will either say &quot;unable to decode signal&quot; or &quot;No access&quot;. Now i believed by using a Matrix cam/ MM that it would decode any signal, apart from the uncrackable ones, BUT display the message &quot;no access&quot; as i had no card. Is this not the case? because all's i was getting using the Matrix cam was unable to decode signal while on the channels that use irdeto or viaccess i was getting &quot;no access&quot;I returned the Matrix cam as all's i was getting was unable to decode signal where i expected the &quot;No access&quot; message. I had paid £150 for the Matrix and thought it wasn't working (like the ice crypt).I will this week pick up an Elvis progammer and a few fun cards....... i guess the fun starts there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gizmo2000, post: 19451, member: 175745"] First off i haven't bought any cams. My receiver has built in Irdeto and Viacess. I bought an ice crypt cam as i was told it was the same as a MM but also had built in No Zap. However my receiver wouldn't recognise the cam. I took the receiver in to Heathrow systems and they too came to the conclusion the icecrypt was no good for my receiver. I then paid an extra £20 and they changed it for a Matrix cam which i was told was the same as a MM. My receiver if it doesn't decode the picture will come up with one of two screens. It will either say "unable to decode signal" or "No access". Now i believed by using a Matrix cam/ MM that it would decode any signal, apart from the uncrackable ones, BUT display the message "no access" as i had no card. Is this not the case? because all's i was getting using the Matrix cam was unable to decode signal while on the channels that use irdeto or viaccess i was getting "no access" I returned the Matrix cam as all's i was getting was unable to decode signal where i expected the "No access" message. I had paid £150 for the Matrix and thought it wasn't working (like the ice crypt). I will this week pick up an Elvis progammer and a few fun cards....... i guess the fun starts there. [/QUOTE]

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