Low Symbol Rate Irish Radio now on Intelsat 37E 18°W (previously 901 27.5°W)

cirio70 said:
Another one from 27,5W:

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Happy New Year 2023

11691.6 V 83 8/9 It's the first time i can lock a frequency with SR under 100 !!!
Pid 101 : Spirit Radio (AAC).
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...But it is also the first time a DVB application( EBSpro) under Windows locks such a low symbol rate under 100Ks. I don't remember a user locking a card DVB working 1-45 Msps. Great :Y
Happy New Year, 2023!
 
Seems like I'll get myself this LNB as a new year's gift!
Happy 2023 for all!!! :-bubbly
 
A little update:
i was wrong, the Octagon doesn't lock the frequency, it locks the nearest 11591 V (iRadio).
Since the APid is the same, i heard music and i thought it was spirit radio but after few minutes i realised it was iRadio.
So TBS 1 - Octagon 0 :)
 
There is a second twin LNB from Fracarro with the suffix FR


as well as a single LTE version that looks very familiar


Neither datasheet mentions PLL technology (though a stripdown will confirm yes or no)., I've previously had better results with low symbol rate reception using the older designs.
 
Datasheet mention


'an economic illuminator of the Fracarro UX-S LTE (just 5.30 Euros:, despite the low cost, it becomes very stable after 15/20 minutes'

and




The quad version internals (inc mod for QO-100 reception)

www.is0grb.it

Modifica LNB Quad Fracarro UX-QD LTE – code 287339 per GPSDO

IS0GRB atv antenne autocostruzione winlink winmor echolink proxy riparazioni radio navtex radioascolto comunicazioni digitali ripetitori Roberto abis
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cirio70 said:
Reading around i found out that Fracarro UX-TW LTE is a PLL lnb made by Octagon and is cheap (around 10/15 euros)
More info HERE (is a pdf document in italian but anyone intrestred can easily translate it online)
So, i decided to "throw avway" some money and i bought the LNB.

It seems a good investment since i managed to lock at first shot the freq: 11591 V 250 8/9 (QPSK-S2)
It carries PID 101 and 201 and it should be regionalised version of "iRadio"

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More to come.... :cool:
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For anyone that is interested, I ordered the non LTE twin version from this seller


and the LTE version as described was delivered late last week.

I should have a chance to swop out the Bullseye on Tuesday and report back
 
Channel Hopper said:
For anyone that is interested, I ordered the non LTE twin version from this seller


and the LTE version as described was delivered late last week.

I should have a chance to swop out the Bullseye on Tuesday and report back
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Exciting , we look forward to your report and Fracarro UX-TW’s performance compared to Bullseye
 
First visual impression of the LNB, it looks like a ribbed pleasure device.

The shaft (ooerr!) allows some 8cms of focal adjustment on the Orbital dish feed support.
 
Second impression - it's really wet out there.

I've fitted the Fracarro, will leave it running for an hour or so to reach operating teperature and stabilise. I have the dish on 27.5W currently and the BBC mux on 11494V is clear but breaking up. Strength and quality on the GT Combo is fine however.

Unlike the Bullseye I can have a second cable into the office , bypassing the DiSEqC motor and can check losses (if there are any)through the additional connections/circuitry.
 
My error, the GT Combo clears the 11494 package, but it is encrypted.
 
I found a new radio on

11596 V 500 8/9 (DVB-S2)
six pids (101,201,301,401,501,601) all with regionalised versions of QRadio in AAC LC

This should be quite easy to tune, i locked it with EBS pro and Inverto Black Ultra and to be honest it was discovered by @satesco few weeks ago.

UPDATE:

11685,77 V 83 8/9 (DVB-S2)
Very hard, i had to use MiniTiouner and slightly move the dish to find the best signal:
Pid 101 AAC LC unfortunately mute.

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Another one on:
11689,85 V 167 8/9 (DVB-S2)

Pid 201: Ireland's Classic Hits Radio (AAC LC)
On air now "The Kim Wilde 80's Show":cool::cool:

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Update noticed on 11690.33 V 166 this week. No longer has Christmas FM on PID 101 (as you’d expect in March!), but there’s another PID now alongside 201 carrying Ireland’s Classic Hits -

PID 301 - Raidió Rí Rá (AAC 128kbps)

Others as before -

11686.26V 83 QPSK 8/9 - Single silent 128kbps AAC stream
11689.16V 83 QPSK 8/9 - Spin South West (PID 101 128kbps AAC). I confirmed that it is this regional version last night as I heard ads for Limerick.
11691.86V 83 QPSK 8/9 - Spirit Radio (PID 101 128kbps AAC)

Then there’s the lower two with iRadio and Q which are a little wider and easier to lock (and seem to be the same as before too).

As otherwise noted, there’s a fair few others with similar parameters and strength but I can’t get them to lock.
 
Adam792 said:
Update noticed on 11690.33 V 166 this week. No longer has Christmas FM on PID 101 (as you’d expect in March!), but there’s another PID now alongside 201 carrying Ireland’s Classic Hits -

PID 301 - Raidió Rí Rá (AAC 128kbps)

Others as before -

11686.26V 83 QPSK 8/9 - Single silent 128kbps AAC stream
11689.16V 83 QPSK 8/9 - Spin South West (PID 101 128kbps AAC). I confirmed that it is this regional version last night as I heard ads for Limerick.
11691.86V 83 QPSK 8/9 - Spirit Radio (PID 101 128kbps AAC)

Then there’s the lower two with iRadio and Q which are a little wider and easier to lock (and seem to be the same as before too).

As otherwise noted, there’s a fair few others with similar parameters and strength but I can’t get them to lock.
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Adam, Newstalk radio stream is there and on, audio is there too. If you wanna hear something, turn up the volume %300 and youll hear the radio. And if you cant turn up volume so high tune into that channel for hourly news bulletins when audio is loud and clear. It has been always like that! I assume it is a regional feed or something similar. I see also that youve reported to flysat, please revert it the previous state. Greetings from rainy Stockholm
 
FC GD said:
Adam, Newstalk radio stream is there and on, audio is there too. If you wanna hear something, turn up the volume %300 and youll hear the radio. And if you cant turn up volume so high tune into that channel for hourly news bulletins when audio is loud and clear. It has been always like that! I assume it is a regional feed or something similar. I see also that youve reported to flysat, please revert it the previous state. Greetings from rainy Stockholm
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Very strange! This is with audio boosted by 60dB - sounds a bit like someone's half unplugged a 3.5mm jack!

Thanks, I will make sure to send the reversion to Flysat.

I wonder if this feed is actually to provide 'on the hour' news to other stations in Ireland then, a bit like INR/Sky News Radio on 28.2°E/9°E in the UK.
 

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Just recorded it over the top of the hour (13:59-14:05 UTC) though and it didn't increase in volume at all this time at least.
 
Adam792 said:
Very strange! This is with audio boosted by 60dB - sounds a bit like someone's half unplugged a 3.5mm jack!

Thanks, I will make sure to send the reversion to Flysat.

I wonder if this feed is actually to provide 'on the hour' news to other stations in Ireland then, a bit like INR/Sky News Radio on 28.2°E/9°E in the UK.
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;)


Adam792 said:
Just recorded it over the top of the hour (13:59-14:05 UTC) though and it didn't increase in volume at all this time at least.
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check this one...
 
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11690.33 V 166 actually locks fairly easily on my TBS6905 card (when using the PLL LNB ), so that one is a good test one for TBS PC tuners.

With the TBSDTV drivers in Linux it seems that the minimum SR is 100 so trying the ones with 83 gives an error on the other hand.
 
Has anybody seen any sign of any of these narrow feeds popping up on Intelsat 1°W since the demise of 27.5°W?

I've recently seen something mentioning the station currently using the temporary Irish FM network (Freedom FM), using an MPX over satellite solution to feed the transmitters (µMPX as used by some of the French stations on 5°W). I'd be very curious to receive this if it does exist. Any theoretical mux would need to support a data-rate of at least ~350kbps, and possibly around 700kbps if it's configured like the French services.

With their previously-favoured QPSK 8/9 configuration, this would require an SR of at least 200.
 
Adam792 said:
Has anybody seen any sign of any of these narrow feeds popping up on Intelsat 1°W since the demise of 27.5°W?

I've recently seen something mentioning the station currently using the temporary Irish FM network (Freedom FM), using an MPX over satellite solution to feed the transmitters (µMPX as used by some of the French stations on 5°W). I'd be very curious to receive this if it does exist. Any theoretical mux would need to support a data-rate of at least ~350kbps, and possibly around 700kbps if it's configured like the French services.

With their previously-favoured QPSK 8/9 configuration, this would require an SR of at least 200.
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Please note that I searched for them at 1.0W but haven't found them yet, because I also wondered where they had been moved to.
And if I couldn't find them, I wondered if the provider of these radio programs had the financial resources to rent slots on a central satellite, at 1.0W, such as Intelsat 10-02.

Or another solution would be at 15.0W, where the BBC Setback was moved, on the North Sea spot, which covers exactly the area for which the operator was intended?

Until someone finds them, these are just questions.
 
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