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TVTel - Portugal
New provider since Aug 2nd. 2007
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<blockquote data-quote="rato" data-source="post: 425186" data-attributes="member: 193950"><p>This new provider in Portugal is transmitting on Eurobird 9ºE on two transponders(11727GHz Vertical 27500 5/6; 11766GHz Vertical 27500, 5/6).</p><p><img src="http://www.eutelsat.com/satellites/coverage/downlink/eb9_9e.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>In Portugal, the provider recommends a 60cm to 80cm dish, but a 65cm dish is furnished by Tv Tel. I have tried with a 60cm dish and you do lose about 10% quality in terms of signal, but the 65cm gives you a 100% signal quality. For the Azores & Madeira Islands, a 1,10m to 1,25m dish would be a good ideia. This sat used to be Hotbird 2 at 13ºE, and was moved to 9ºE during the spring of this year. This footprint map may be a little off in terms of EIRP readings, since this sat has a few transmitting years on it.</p><p></p><p>The package contains 18 Channels Conax encrypted plus two FTA "Test" channels.</p><p>Conax encrypted: </p><p>RTP 1 </p><p></p><p>RTP 2 </p><p></p><p>SIC </p><p></p><p>TVI </p><p></p><p>Canal Panda </p><p></p><p>Discovery Channel Iberia </p><p></p><p>People + Arts Iberia </p><p></p><p>Odisseia </p><p></p><p>Canal de Historia</p><p></p><p>The Biography Channel Spain & Portugal </p><p></p><p>MTV Portugal </p><p></p><p>VH1 Europe A </p><p></p><p>Canal Hollywood </p><p></p><p>MGM Brazil </p><p></p><p>ESPN Classic Europe </p><p></p><p>NASN Europe </p><p></p><p>Travel Channel (UK) </p><p></p><p>FTA:</p><p>Viva (Germany)</p><p></p><p>Fashion TV </p><p></p><p>Prices:_http://www.tvtel.pt/satelite_servicos.html</p><p><img src="http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3070/flyerst1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>80 Euros</strong> for the kit(STB, monoblock LNB, 65cm dish). Included in the price is the <strong>25 Euros</strong> for activation, so the rental option is not very favorable(<strong>25 euros</strong> activation plus <strong>2,50 euros/</strong>monthly) . Installment by a professional is <strong>80 Euros</strong> for up to 30 meters cable. There is only one package,(the above channels listed), which is <strong>12,90 Euros a month</strong>. For the <strong>first 5000 customers</strong>, it´s <strong>7,95 Euros a month</strong> for the first year.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They also include another 25 FTA channels but on Hotbird 13ºE. The package contains the receiver: a Technotrend model TT-micro S201; a 65cm dish and a monobloc LNB for receiving Eurobird 9ºE + Hotbird 13ºE. The STB is a little limited, but you can use it for controlling up to 4 sat via DiSEqC. No motor control. The image output doesn't give you a jaw falling effect, but for that 8 year old CRT tv tht you use for your camper, it's great. It a almost clone of the TV Cabo Octal micro DVB receiver, known as the "Powerbox". At least it doesn't think it's a toaster(I've put it through a 5 day always on marathon<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />), this STB just warms milk<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />. It's too early for fault's on this one, but weak signals(quality below 50%), it starts to break up & go away, so this tuner is no better than the Tv Cabo's Powerbox.</p><p></p><p>Customer support is also too early to have a say, but the web site seems to be updated now, and with info on the sat package. </p><p></p><p>You can use the card in a Matrix Reborn CAM or a Dragon CAM(haven't tried it in a Diablo yet), and view the package in your favorite receiver, and yes, the image quality shines out a little more than the Technotrend.</p><p></p><p>For now it's a small offer they have, but the channels have great quality image output: at least it's in the PAL norm of 720 x 576, in comparison to the TV Cabo package which cramms up the transponders with so many channels and reduces to the resolution of 480 x 576 and 540 x 576 to save bandwidth! Believe me, at that point on certain plasma and LCD screens, the image quality gets very poor. I have compared watching CSI on Five, and then changing the channel to the Portuguese TV Cabo package which runs CSI at the same time and believe me, it's<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />:-puke on the Tv Cabo channel!!! At least here in Portugal you can have a choice between two sat providers, which is a start, so the market here will start to have some shifting in terms of prices, receivers & packages to offer. There will be a option for a Conax CAM + card instead of the receiver, which is very good news to who don´t wants another STB and wants to use there own receiver.</p><p></p><p><strong>UPDATE Aug 30th:</strong> Dealer's around the Setubal & Lisbon area are sold out on STB TV Tel boxes & cards! One dealer showed me his 30+ signed contracts waiting for STB + cards. The word of mouth is that another STB model is being shipped(probably a Kaon<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite53" alt=":confused" title="Confused :confused" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused" />?) but these are just rumors. The CAM + card are on demand at dealers, and the reply from Tv Tel is that the subject of shipping out this option is almost out but with no confirmed date.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rato, post: 425186, member: 193950"] This new provider in Portugal is transmitting on Eurobird 9ºE on two transponders(11727GHz Vertical 27500 5/6; 11766GHz Vertical 27500, 5/6). [img]http://www.eutelsat.com/satellites/coverage/downlink/eb9_9e.gif[/img] In Portugal, the provider recommends a 60cm to 80cm dish, but a 65cm dish is furnished by Tv Tel. I have tried with a 60cm dish and you do lose about 10% quality in terms of signal, but the 65cm gives you a 100% signal quality. For the Azores & Madeira Islands, a 1,10m to 1,25m dish would be a good ideia. This sat used to be Hotbird 2 at 13ºE, and was moved to 9ºE during the spring of this year. This footprint map may be a little off in terms of EIRP readings, since this sat has a few transmitting years on it. The package contains 18 Channels Conax encrypted plus two FTA "Test" channels. Conax encrypted: RTP 1 RTP 2 SIC TVI Canal Panda Discovery Channel Iberia People + Arts Iberia Odisseia Canal de Historia The Biography Channel Spain & Portugal MTV Portugal VH1 Europe A Canal Hollywood MGM Brazil ESPN Classic Europe NASN Europe Travel Channel (UK) FTA: Viva (Germany) Fashion TV Prices:_http://www.tvtel.pt/satelite_servicos.html [IMG]http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3070/flyerst1.jpg[/IMG] [B]80 Euros[/B] for the kit(STB, monoblock LNB, 65cm dish). Included in the price is the [B]25 Euros[/B] for activation, so the rental option is not very favorable([B]25 euros[/B] activation plus [B]2,50 euros/[/B]monthly) . Installment by a professional is [B]80 Euros[/B] for up to 30 meters cable. There is only one package,(the above channels listed), which is [B]12,90 Euros a month[/B]. For the [B]first 5000 customers[/B], it´s [B]7,95 Euros a month[/B] for the first year. They also include another 25 FTA channels but on Hotbird 13ºE. The package contains the receiver: a Technotrend model TT-micro S201; a 65cm dish and a monobloc LNB for receiving Eurobird 9ºE + Hotbird 13ºE. The STB is a little limited, but you can use it for controlling up to 4 sat via DiSEqC. No motor control. The image output doesn't give you a jaw falling effect, but for that 8 year old CRT tv tht you use for your camper, it's great. It a almost clone of the TV Cabo Octal micro DVB receiver, known as the "Powerbox". At least it doesn't think it's a toaster(I've put it through a 5 day always on marathon:D), this STB just warms milk:p. It's too early for fault's on this one, but weak signals(quality below 50%), it starts to break up & go away, so this tuner is no better than the Tv Cabo's Powerbox. Customer support is also too early to have a say, but the web site seems to be updated now, and with info on the sat package. You can use the card in a Matrix Reborn CAM or a Dragon CAM(haven't tried it in a Diablo yet), and view the package in your favorite receiver, and yes, the image quality shines out a little more than the Technotrend. For now it's a small offer they have, but the channels have great quality image output: at least it's in the PAL norm of 720 x 576, in comparison to the TV Cabo package which cramms up the transponders with so many channels and reduces to the resolution of 480 x 576 and 540 x 576 to save bandwidth! Believe me, at that point on certain plasma and LCD screens, the image quality gets very poor. I have compared watching CSI on Five, and then changing the channel to the Portuguese TV Cabo package which runs CSI at the same time and believe me, it's:eek::-puke on the Tv Cabo channel!!! At least here in Portugal you can have a choice between two sat providers, which is a start, so the market here will start to have some shifting in terms of prices, receivers & packages to offer. There will be a option for a Conax CAM + card instead of the receiver, which is very good news to who don´t wants another STB and wants to use there own receiver. [B]UPDATE Aug 30th:[/B] Dealer's around the Setubal & Lisbon area are sold out on STB TV Tel boxes & cards! One dealer showed me his 30+ signed contracts waiting for STB + cards. The word of mouth is that another STB model is being shipped(probably a Kaon:confused:?) but these are just rumors. The CAM + card are on demand at dealers, and the reply from Tv Tel is that the subject of shipping out this option is almost out but with no confirmed date. [/QUOTE]
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