new to dsd need help!

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this isn't to do with sky, as I live in Australia.
This is proberbly a stupid question, but I'm paranoid.
Can the paytv co find out that you've hacked into their service (ie. do any of these decoders send out)?
I want to use a Iderto decoder called uec 720, which I got from foxtel when I was a subscriber. Is this wise?
Also does anyone know anything about this particular decoder. Is it any good?

thanx
 
Panasat used to make the IRD 720, but it was a very slow machine

Without looking at the broadcast parameters, can you confirm Rupert still uses IRDETO down under ? If not then your idea isnt going to work
 
If the receiver is conected to the dish only and not the telephone,it is impossible for the dish to radiate a signal back to the satellite,I presume we are talking satellite and not a street cable conection!.Some receivers hold in memory the chanels you have selected in the past,and also the smart card has memory,even with all this,the paytv company would need to "read" this directly from the box or card.It is possible in extreme cases to "see" what you are watching with very expensive equipment from the street outside your door,just leave your name and address at the tone!! Brian
 
If the card is the property of the broadcaster (99% of the rime it is)
then if its returned and read it will give them all they need to send a bill to you

This was the threat of ITVD when some unscrupulous people were reprogramming them
 
They asked me for the card back,i said that it was in the dog,they said send the dog,and they would wait for it.......Brian
 
how do I find out what encryption system is currently been used?
(ie. Irdeto 1 or 2)
 
Should be able to find out from http://www,lyngsat.com

Rolf
 
Gidday.
Downunder here in NZ we have adopted the same system of encryption as what is used in the Uk with Bs*yB. Ours called S*y Nz.(NDS VideoGuard)
What i would like to know, is what hardware in the way of a programmer would i require to Clone or copy a Currently Subbed card over to a Virgin Unused S*y Nz card,for then use in another S*y Box.
What software would i need to use ?.
Ive been reading tones of Forrums, but most of them i have read are related to Australia's PTV Encryption, which is Irdeto.
I have read lately that Australian PTV operators are soon to change over to Irdeto2.
Anyway.. If any of you can give me some help.. I'd be stoked !!

Cya
 
You're more likely to be stuffed than stoked Rentakill :) If the system is the same, then you cannot clone the cards, its close to impossible to read them. No one as far as I know, has managed to clone a UK Videoguard card.

Rolf
 
Thanks Rolfw for your reply.
I have seen around at various other Forrums that it was once impossible to gain access into an N*S card, due to the security that they (N*S) have included in the Card.
But i have seen lately that it is now possible to interogate and change variables on an N*S card.
I'm not sure if you've been to Nds.host.sk/ site.
They have a pretty good bundle of software and inforamtion packages there..
Well.. I'll continue on..

Thanks
 
Yes, I think that there are certain elements of the card that may be accessible, it may also be possible to clear some information, but it then effectively leaves you with a non-usable card.

rolf
 
Rolfw..

Do you have any good sites that could be on interest ?..
I know that the PPV level on a card can be altered or deleted quite easily..

Thanx
 
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 20-Jun-02 AT 06:38 AM (GMT)]The site that used to be good and I think is still around, is the Wizzards Workbench. http://www.the-wizards-workbench.co.uk

Also see this thread on Digital Forums http://digital-forums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66961&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

These guys know most of what can be done and is available, with regard to the PPV record, dead right, it can be cleared, but along with most of the operational information, which again renders the card useless.

We'd be interested to know if you come up with anything else on your travels.

Rolf
 
"You're more likely to be stuffed than stoked Rentakill ".

LOL. Made my sunday evening. Actually I am lying - Germany losing the final made me VERY happy; but, that was some hours ago :-)

I guess here in Berlin I miss the humour. Nobody wanted to watch a smiling english man this afternoon. Strange.

More to the point, I'm missing wimbledon-i. For some reason its moved to 2D this year. Bastards.

Have Fun,

Mark.
 
Good to hear from you Mark, don't they cover wimbledon on any of the domestic channels?

Rolf
 
Hi Guys
What Programmers would you lot suggest is best for interogating and programming cards. Mainly Irdeto and NDS.Videoguard.
Ive seen ones such as VxMulti, Elvis, MasteraII etc..
I was looking at the MasteraII..
I'm not totally up to speed on the differences between each unit, as there are not to many people in this part of the world that are dealing with them.
Rolf, In your experience, what would you suggest is best one.
And why ?
I'm looking at getting one. and would like to make the right decision.

Thanks
 
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 04-Jul-02 AT 07:46 PM (GMT)]Problem with my advice on programmers, is that I've only used the Millenium and the Elvis and whilst the latter is superb, there may be better tools for the job.

There are several members who have experience with several types, also Duwgati's site http://duwgati.com/ has advice and critiques on several different programmers.

Rolf
 
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