New Vu+ Duo owner - first impressions.

Are there actually any proper signal strength meters on the Duo for when you are manually tuning? I cant find any and thats a very serious shortfall in the way I operate my receivers.

Even the cheapest digital receiver Ive ever owned had them - in an obvious place too.
 
Analoguesat said:
Are there actually any proper signal strength meters on the Duo for when you are manually tuning? I cant find any and thats a very serious shortfall in the way I operate my receivers.

Even the cheapest digital receiver Ive ever owned had them - in an obvious place too.
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For a locked signal there is the SNR on the info bar. If you are looking for an analogue signal strength meter there isn't one, just the same as there isn't one on any E2 receiver (Dreambox, CT,etc). The nearest thing is the signal strength meter in the positioner setup page, but that is only available for satellites that have DiSEqC 1.2 enabled.
 
Huevos said:
For a locked signal there is the SNR on the info bar. If you are looking for an analogue signal strength meter there isn't one, just the same as there isn't one on any E2 receiver (Dreambox, CT,etc). The nearest thing is the signal strength meter in the positioner setup page, but that is only available for satellites that have DiSEqC 1.2 enabled.
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Sigh. Another black mark against the box/E2 software. I want to see how strong the signal is whilst Im doing a manual tune - especially in DVB-S2 mode where there is no auto fec.

As far as Im concerned the receiver is almost useless for searching for DVB-S2 feeds if you only know the few parameters you get on feed sites like satelliweb
 
it does sound like a lot of the useful features are either missing or hidden away in the menus which will put a lot of people off.

are you still using it as a radio tuner lol
 
wod said:
it does sound like a lot of the useful features are either missing or hidden away in the menus which will put a lot of people off.
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That's how a Dreambox HD (or any other E2 receiver is). It's nothing to do with the Duo. These boxes are made for watching TV, recording, and customising, not feedhunting, and in those uses the Vu+ Duo is miles ahead of much of the competition. If AS wanted the features of a Dreambox but the possibility to feedhunt the Uno would have been the best choice (in my opinion). Even the 70€ Openbox S9 would have been a better choice than the Duo, but for watching TV the Duo is king.
 
wod said:
it does sound like a lot of the useful features are either missing or hidden away in the menus which will put a lot of people off.

are you still using it as a radio tuner lol
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Most of the time yes.
 
Huevos said:
That's how a Dreambox HD (or any other E2 receiver is). It's nothing to do with the Duo. These boxes are made for watching TV, recording, and customising, not feedhunting, and in those uses the Vu+ Duo is miles ahead of much of the competition. If AS wanted the features of a Dreambox but the possibility to feedhunt the Uno would have been the best choice (in my opinion). Even the 70€ Openbox S9 would have been a better choice than the Duo, but for watching TV the Duo is king.
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The Uno is overpriced at the moment as far as Im concerned.

I dont do a great deal of feed hunting but I use the signal strength bars on the 7020 several times a week when tinkering with the box. Its a tragic waste of the boxes capability that something a simple as that to execute has been dropped from E2.

However I may have found a use for the box where it can start earning its keep instead of putting my blood pressure through the roof every time I try tinkering with it..
 
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You can put the tuner on advance settings used for motorised dish, on a fixed dish and use the the postioner set up to manual tune.
 
Sounds like an excessively complicated way of doing things but I'll have a look when Im awake.


This omission is INSANE though - every single receiver Ive ever used has at least a basic set of signal strength bars to aid tuning.

Jeez - even the cheapest and nastiest Sky sluggibox which is totally bloody useless for almost anything has a reasonable set of signal strength bars!
 
Analoguesat said:
Sounds like an excessively complicated way of doing things but I'll have a look when Im awake.
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It's still not what you want, because... the page that displays the signal bar (actually it is SNR not signal) is not the same page where you adjust the FEC... and the page where you adjust the FEC does not have the signal bar, so the only way you are going to be able to do what you want is by toggling between these two pages, and using brute force to solve the problem (pretty much the same as scanning each FEC until you find one that works).
 

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Analguesat, don't forget the people coding these releases are coders not user interface designers... they put in what they think is needed. I am sure its not that hard to get to the info you want, its just a step beyond having it appear on the screen.

Just ordered VU+ Duo, so will be joining the club soon!
 
And there must be a plug in there somewhere which has a signal strength/quality bar and tuning parameters on the same page...
 
There is a new vti image out for the duo you could try out ?
 
New official image today as well, I see, V6?
 
Any suggestion as to why this flaky p.o.s. loses track of the internal hard drive every few weeks? Reinitialising it in the menus brings it back - when I can find the right menu path....

Christ this receiver and its limitations for the way I want to use it is annoying.
 
Analoguesat said:
Any suggestion as to why this flaky p.o.s. loses track of the internal hard drive every few weeks? Reinitialising it in the menus brings it back - when I can find the right menu path....

Christ this receiver and its limitations for the way I want to use it is annoying.
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Beats me. I'm still setting up my DM7020HD. Done all the wiring nice and neat, except for those bloody transformersfor the routers etc giving me radiation in my feet. Still struggling with DM-Router-Switch-DCC. Think I will have to do a seperate setup with Windows 7 as my existing is full of who knows what.
 
Analoguesat said:
Any suggestion as to why this flaky p.o.s. loses track of the internal hard drive every few weeks?
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That has never happened with mine. Maybe it is a bug in the image.
 
Huevos said:
That has never happened with mine. Maybe it is a bug in the image.
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Plenty of them to be seen in BH even without delving around too deeply.
 
I've never had to re-initialise the HDD on mine either. Are you sure the issue isn't with the HDD itself.

I've still got recordings on mine that were originally made on my very first DM7020Si and then transfered to the Vu+ that were recorded when Multivision, TPS, Premiere, D+ & TV Cabo were wide open on keys. Along with a mixture of DIVX files & HD recordings.

I know a few models of HDD are funny with the Vu+ but the majority of them (85%+) are ok.

I've got a 300Gb Seagate in mine. No issues with it at all :D

Even the el cheapo £25 250Gb MDT branded HDD that i first put in it was fine until i needed it for another receiver. I think there are some issues with certain Western Digital drives if memory serves me correctly.

If you think the Vu+ is bad you really don't want to try a DM800, now that is what you call a complete box of w**k :-lmao

Nano
 
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