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In my opinion,12723 V is on Eut 33E,because the signal has increased much lately(before it was weaker),since the Swiss pack moved to the current slot-i.e. on 12598 V,which seems to be on Eut C(the same signal strength as before).
I'm not entirely sure, but,of course,my opinion is more empirical than a scientific one confirmed by from the satellite operator.

That would surely be gud news for me.. :)
 

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In my opinion,12723 V is on Eut 33E,because the signal has increased much lately(before it was weaker),since the Swiss pack moved to the current slot-i.e. on 12598 V,which seems to be on Eut C(the same signal strength as before).
I'm not entirely sure, but,of course,my opinion is more empirical than a scientific one confirmed by from the satellite operator.

well, I did try the 12722v tp in my area, but didnt receive any signal... making me believe, its still on 33C and not 33E.
I did not even get any noise signal fluctuations.

A 40 dbW beam over my area, I should be able to get it by 4 feet offset dish, ideally.
 

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I have to make a correction.
In my opinion,12723 V is on Eut 33E,because the signal has increased much lately(before it was weaker),since the Swiss pack moved to the current slot-i.e. on 12598 V,which seems to be on Eut C(the same signal strength as before).
I'm not entirely sure, but,of course,my opinion is more empirical than a scientific one confirmed by from the satellite operator.

I have to make a correction. I made a comparison between the signal on the two transponders,12598 V and 12723 V, on the same antenna and with the same lnb,without any change in configuration of the installation of reception,and found that both have a stronger signal than it was before. So both are on Eutelsat 33E, the Wide beam.
As you already know, the signal at fringe reception area is much weaker than it indicates coverage maps,sometimes it is not at all,all the more so when you use an 4 feet dish.With an offset antenna does not get a good directivity to hope to get in either a weak signal.As far as I can see, your area-New Delhi,is far away from the fringe zone.So, I hope I am wrong, but with the 4 feet dish are not likely to catch Wide beam.
Here's how the signal strength of the two transponders looks before and after they have been moved to Eutelsat 33E.
 

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I have to make a correction.


I have to make a correction. I made a comparison between the signal on the two transponders,12598 V and 12723 V, on the same antenna and with the same lnb,without any change in configuration of the installation of reception,and found that both have a stronger signal than it was before. So both are on Eutelsat 33E, the Wide beam.
As you already know, the signal at fringe reception area is much weaker than it indicates coverage maps,sometimes it is not at all,all the more so when you use an 4 feet dish.With an offset antenna does not get a good directivity to hope to get in either a weak signal.As far as I can see, your area-New Delhi,is far away from the fringe zone.So, I hope I am wrong, but with the 4 feet dish are not likely to catch Wide beam.
Here's how the signal strength of the two transponders looks before and after they have been moved to Eutelsat 33E.

well, yes the beam's last contour covers my area.
Could be, that the beam is still not working as per what has been planned, and the last contours still have to be corrected according to the actual coverage map.
Or, may be I need to give it a lot more time, Ill try once again...

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It is very good that the beam touches your area,which makes you hope,who knows,you can receive it.But after all calculations 4 feet make 121.92 cm and not 130 cm what is advisable,theoretically speaking,by "your" map(130cm is for a dvb-s(qpsk) signal depending on other parameters).But as far as all enthusiasts know,every millimeter counts to antenna for a weak signal,not to say that you need at least 8cm,theoretically,to lock 12598 V. And if we take into account the parameters of this transponder-Dvb-S2X/8PSK(MPEG-4),25/36,the received signal must be stronger than 40 dBW,as it is in your area.Which I do not think you can do with your 4 feet offset dish.
I repeat what I said in the previous post,that I do not want to be right.On the contrary,I sincerely want to contradict with your results.Keep my fingers crossed you succeed :)
 
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That Polish frequency was always lousy power even when it was DVB-S2. When I had an lnb on 33E it rarely appeared when I scanned 33E

Shawl_who I suspect you are going to need a MUCH bigger dish to have any chance with it
 

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It is very good that the beam touches your area,which makes you hope,who knows,you can receive it.But after all calculations 4 feet make 121.92 cm and not 130 cm what is advisable,theoretically speaking,by "your" map(130cm is for a dvb-s(qpsk) signal depending on other parameters).But as far as all enthusiasts know,every millimeter counts to antenna for a weak signal,not to say that you need at least 8cm,theoretically,to lock 12598 V. And if we take into account the parameters of this transponder-Dvb-S2X/8PSK(MPEG-4),25/36,the received signal must be stronger than 40 dBW,as it is in your area.Which I do not think you can do with your 4 feet offset dish.
I repeat what I said in the previous post,that I do not want to be right.On the contrary,I sincerely want to contradict with your results.Keep my fingers crossed you succeed :)

well, I tried with 12722 v tp, which is not in S2X compression, but normal dvb-s2.
my dish size is infact 120 x 130 cms. :rolleyes:

Hence, if the beam performs, as its supposed to, a 40 dbW beam shud be a quite easy....
Yes, may be I m not doing it correctly, ill try it again.... keeping fingers crossed. :unsure
 

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Whats the interest in the Polish channels - they are Irdeto 3 so you wont be opening them with keys or patches or the like even if you get them
 

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That Polish frequency was always lousy power even when it was DVB-S2. When I had an lnb on 33E it rarely appeared when I scanned 33E

Shawl_who I suspect you are going to need a MUCH bigger dish to have any chance with it
Yeah, U may be right.. signals would be weak, otherwise, I would have got it by now. My tracking skills, arent that bad, afterall. :rolleyes:

Whats the interest in the Polish channels - they are Irdeto 3 so you wont be opening them with keys or patches or the like even if you get them

well, just the overwhelming feeling of having 1 more sat in one's kitty.
And that, in future if any more channels are added, I know beforehand, that yes, this satellite is catch able, and I approach my terrace with confident steps. :-woohoo
 

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Tried again, and failed... :-ohcrap

now I m fed up, and will only try once some new tps start on it, with proper beam power in its last contours. :-Axechase
 

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The maps are only indicative,all the more so when it comes to the signal in the fringe area.Actually our colleague.@Analoguesat, has told you directly what I said but in a slightly roundabout way.
It is to be admired the efforts you make to catch a satellite that is not for your area,especially as you use a small antenna for a weak signal in your area.
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All 33East channels are now on Eute 33E - 33C is moving towards a new home at 133W
 

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All 33East channels are now on Eute 33E - 33C is moving towards a new home at 133W

Yeah... but now this bird is not of any benefit to me, as its footprints have changed and has gone out of coverage for me, unless there's a miraculous spillover of the some fringe signals onto India. :-woohoo
 
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