NGN Next Generation Network

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HB13DISH

Retired Mod
My Location
Middle East - Israel
Bezeq (BT equivalent in Israel) is marketing now the NGN technology.
They are offering at present time 10M and 15M, and claim the technology can go up to 50M.
The sleepless nights due to bulldozers noise and the inconvenience of pavements with piles of rubles near home over the past few months, is probably due to building the infrastructure for this technology.
My area is still not connected to NGN, but should be soon.

Just wondering if any member has already installed NGN at home or at work and what is your impression and reviews.
I would also like to know what the company need to do in your home in order to supply the service and what type of modem do you need.
 
Do we take it this is FDDI technology i.e. fibre optic cabling to the home or something completely different?

If it is then all our streets were done years ago in the days of NT hell. I was laying a new flexible water mains in to the house from the street through the garden at that time and because regulations dictated I had to build a solid substructure for the water mains pipe to sit on and then rise up to enter the property (a ramp) through the foundations of the house, I took the liberty of also laying a similar neoprine pipe for the fibre optic to run in should we ever go down that route and it is still coiled up below the flower bed next to the wall. If we ever decided to take the service, all that would be necessary would be to pass the pipe under the garden wall to the other side and air blow a string through to the house and pull the cable through.

However I have just realised I should have let you answer the question as I may be rabbiting on about something completely different.
 
Yes, it a fiber optic technology. The fibers end in a Bezeq cabinet in the street corner and from there use the already laid down standard telephone cabling (seems a bit daft, but this is what they say in their website).
They name BT as one of the leaders in Europe that has adapted the NGN. Oddly enough, the link to BT website doesn't mention NGN
_http://www.btplc.com/21cn/
I think you made a very wise decision to lay out the foundation also for the fiber optic.
The prices are reasonable enough. Cost is /month
Bezeq NGN:
10M 95 NIS
15M 117 NIS
ISP:
10M 100 NIS
15M 130 NIS

I don't believe that I will be connected soon. They have a nice way to check if the service is already in your area by filling the telephone number including the area code, and you will get a result telling you that the service is not available in your area. Looks like this is the default for all households at the moment. It is in the bottom left corner.
_http://www02.bezeq.co.il/NGN/Pages/life.aspx

I am already planning on using a Slingbox to watch Freesat from the UK. Just need someone in the UK who might want to watch IBA Channel 1 and the other rubbish channels on Amos. Not such a good deal unfortunately.
 
HB13DISH said:
The fibers end in a Bezeq cabinet in the street corner and from there use the already laid down standard telephone cabling (seems a bit daft, but this is what they say in their website).
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Not perfect but not really daft HB, the main problem with sending data through a copper wire is signal loss over distance.

Switching from one voltage to another cant happen as quickly on as it could on a short run.

Theoretically, the short run between cabinet in the street and your home should be capable of handling high speed connections for years to come.

In Ireland, fibre optic network cabling infrastructure was built back in the mid to late 90's, even in a lot of rural areas. (Before even Windowz 98 was released or the general public knew what broad band was).

For the past 10+ years its just been sitting there unused because the main Telecom provider owns/controls the infrastructure. Why would they bother to spend the money to upgrade the network when they can dictate what speeds the other ISPs can operate at. :mad:

Apologies for going off topic a little :-DOH2
 
To continue the off topic, here being one of the first places in the country to be cabled for FDDI it was only originally used for just telephone and TV the same as you in Ireland but the uptake was very poor as it was deemed expensive. This lack of uptake created the dark cabling situation which I understand google has now bought in order to provide some kind of an alternative broadband.

Another FDDI network was created in the UK using the existing electricity national grid system and was owned IIRC by Energis. It was a symbiotic relationship as the high voltages and EM radiation of the grid could not affect the data flowing through the fibre optic cable, yet there was no disruption to the roads and footpaths and attaching it was quick and easy

In Israel whilst c a b l e tv has been around for years it was always copper, often just slung across the tops of roofs and boundary walls. I am glad to see the residential infrastructure is finally being installed however the business infrastructure has been there for years, indeed Intel would not be there in TA if it was not.
 
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