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OCTAGON SX88 H.265 HEVC HD
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<blockquote data-quote="MCelliotG" data-source="post: 1027115" data-attributes="member: 404726"><p>This receiver seems like a good bargain for an all in one solution at a small price.</p><p>But please give attention to this detail, although blindscan works fine for normal transponders, <strong>it does not actually blindscan multistream transponders. </strong>This is highly important for everyone to keep in mind, as the manufacturers lead buyers to believe that it can auto discover any multistream frequency with no input values.</p><p>What happens with multistreams is that the firmware adds the multistream values required from a built in table that has stored all known MIS combinations. So when the user sets the multistream option to yes in blindscan all the scanner does is scan the frequency steps once with no MIS values and also with the built in MIS combinations. Naturally all known commercial multistream packages will be "blindscanned", regardless their frequency and orbital position. Take an example from PC programs like DVBDream. In their blindscan settings there is an option to input a MIS combination, and after that the scanner does the same thing as the closed source scanner of SX88 (and other stbs like Denys).</p><p>A real Multistream combination auto discovery is a tediously time consuming procedure and everyone with powerful PCs and PC cards like TBS know that. You cannot blindscan any MIS combination in a few minutes.</p><p></p><p>T2-MI on the other hand is different. For that all that is required is a decapsulator that runs internally in the firmware while it scans pid 4096. That should have happened already in E2 but it stalled as it's a hobby and no developer is obliged to take the development further. Closed source linux firmwares like SX88's already have that and of course you cannot expect any of the manufacturers to give the recipes for an E2 adaptation, they will lose money and it's all they care about!</p><p></p><p>I challenge any of these closed source implementations to find any signal on a non-commercial data transponder with their magic blindscan. If they succeed, I'd really know how a miracle can happen, and personally I'm not a believer...</p><p>Oh wait, you cannot do that in their satfinder, am I wrong?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MCelliotG, post: 1027115, member: 404726"] This receiver seems like a good bargain for an all in one solution at a small price. But please give attention to this detail, although blindscan works fine for normal transponders, [B]it does not actually blindscan multistream transponders. [/B]This is highly important for everyone to keep in mind, as the manufacturers lead buyers to believe that it can auto discover any multistream frequency with no input values. What happens with multistreams is that the firmware adds the multistream values required from a built in table that has stored all known MIS combinations. So when the user sets the multistream option to yes in blindscan all the scanner does is scan the frequency steps once with no MIS values and also with the built in MIS combinations. Naturally all known commercial multistream packages will be "blindscanned", regardless their frequency and orbital position. Take an example from PC programs like DVBDream. In their blindscan settings there is an option to input a MIS combination, and after that the scanner does the same thing as the closed source scanner of SX88 (and other stbs like Denys). A real Multistream combination auto discovery is a tediously time consuming procedure and everyone with powerful PCs and PC cards like TBS know that. You cannot blindscan any MIS combination in a few minutes. T2-MI on the other hand is different. For that all that is required is a decapsulator that runs internally in the firmware while it scans pid 4096. That should have happened already in E2 but it stalled as it's a hobby and no developer is obliged to take the development further. Closed source linux firmwares like SX88's already have that and of course you cannot expect any of the manufacturers to give the recipes for an E2 adaptation, they will lose money and it's all they care about! I challenge any of these closed source implementations to find any signal on a non-commercial data transponder with their magic blindscan. If they succeed, I'd really know how a miracle can happen, and personally I'm not a believer... Oh wait, you cannot do that in their satfinder, am I wrong? [/QUOTE]
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