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<blockquote data-quote="BarMoo" data-source="post: 248670" data-attributes="member: 175089"><p>Ring circuits are so 1974. So, some numbnut cuts through a cable in the box room: the idea being that all the other sockets on the ring will continue to work<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> . I think the idea is perfect for the National Grid, but, frankly most English houses are so tiny - you could wire one up with a 100m of hard-wire and have 20 metres left for the next new-build.</p><p></p><p>I'm joking.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> But most new techno light/socket systems are radial.</p><p></p><p>I would .......</p><p></p><p>a. introduce an appropriate breaker into the consumer unit (value as indicated by UPS). then with spec [1.5mm hard? forgotten the english word - its grey] cable, run from there to a fused connection unit (junction box) [read: immersion heater outlet] box. This supplies the UPS via flexi rope.</p><p></p><p>b. From the o/p of the UPS, run entirely new radial circuits (via another flexi-to-hard cable connection box) to each lamp rose and/or whatever socket outlet you consider should be un-interuptabubble; using the correct (or spray painted) red sockets/ceiling disks and that grey cable stuff (which I wish I could remember the name of). </p><p></p><p>UPS socket outlets are designated RED and light fixtures are accompanied by a red disk clearly visible nearby. Red, emergency, get it, LOL.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite13" alt=":-rofl2" title="roll on floor :-rofl2" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":-rofl2" /> </p><p></p><p>The interesting part is the socket/light mixture (for a house, that is). Certainly, the best and most reasonable thing to do is to designate one room in the house for a UPS socket (not necessarily for a PC- but a known max rated device) and then go about 'installing' everything from the cable from the UPS - up the walls, through the ceiling and back to a flush socket (red, naturally).</p><p></p><p>8. Here is what I would really do:-</p><p></p><p>z. Forget the PC, else plug the UPS (with flex) directly at the outlet where the PC is currently located - and run your PC 'un-interupted' - and;</p><p></p><p>f. Do as Polo said, have emergency lamps hooked up to the lighting circuit, but with LED lamps<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /> I have four of these little buggers (22 leds in each unit) and when all four are ON they burn less than the smallest 'energy' lamp from IKEA - and they look cool;) 4x22000 lux aint too bad.</p><p></p><p>## Funny story, totally illegal. My director friend wanted a lamp on the landing. Fine. He wanted it to be switched from the bedroom, fine! He wanted the socket to be at spec-above-floor level - OK.</p><p></p><p>I did all the work, wanted to use a 3pin round (3amp) light socket (they are used here in Germany BTW<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite53" alt=":confused" title="Confused :confused" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused" /> ) - but my director friend didn't buy one. </p><p></p><p>Still moaning about his lamp I used one of my ordinary 13amp sockets.</p><p></p><p>Then he sold his house. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /> </p><p></p><p>I wonder to this day whether someone has plugged the hoover into that socket<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite69" alt=":-ohmy" title="Oh My :-ohmy" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":-ohmy" /> and ..............</p><p></p><p>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BarMoo, post: 248670, member: 175089"] Ring circuits are so 1974. So, some numbnut cuts through a cable in the box room: the idea being that all the other sockets on the ring will continue to work:D . I think the idea is perfect for the National Grid, but, frankly most English houses are so tiny - you could wire one up with a 100m of hard-wire and have 20 metres left for the next new-build. I'm joking.:D But most new techno light/socket systems are radial. I would ....... a. introduce an appropriate breaker into the consumer unit (value as indicated by UPS). then with spec [1.5mm hard? forgotten the english word - its grey] cable, run from there to a fused connection unit (junction box) [read: immersion heater outlet] box. This supplies the UPS via flexi rope. b. From the o/p of the UPS, run entirely new radial circuits (via another flexi-to-hard cable connection box) to each lamp rose and/or whatever socket outlet you consider should be un-interuptabubble; using the correct (or spray painted) red sockets/ceiling disks and that grey cable stuff (which I wish I could remember the name of). UPS socket outlets are designated RED and light fixtures are accompanied by a red disk clearly visible nearby. Red, emergency, get it, LOL.:-rofl2 The interesting part is the socket/light mixture (for a house, that is). Certainly, the best and most reasonable thing to do is to designate one room in the house for a UPS socket (not necessarily for a PC- but a known max rated device) and then go about 'installing' everything from the cable from the UPS - up the walls, through the ceiling and back to a flush socket (red, naturally). 8. Here is what I would really do:- z. Forget the PC, else plug the UPS (with flex) directly at the outlet where the PC is currently located - and run your PC 'un-interupted' - and; f. Do as Polo said, have emergency lamps hooked up to the lighting circuit, but with LED lamps:eek: I have four of these little buggers (22 leds in each unit) and when all four are ON they burn less than the smallest 'energy' lamp from IKEA - and they look cool;) 4x22000 lux aint too bad. ## Funny story, totally illegal. My director friend wanted a lamp on the landing. Fine. He wanted it to be switched from the bedroom, fine! He wanted the socket to be at spec-above-floor level - OK. I did all the work, wanted to use a 3pin round (3amp) light socket (they are used here in Germany BTW:confused: ) - but my director friend didn't buy one. Still moaning about his lamp I used one of my ordinary 13amp sockets. Then he sold his house. :eek: I wonder to this day whether someone has plugged the hoover into that socket:o and .............. . [/QUOTE]
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