Receiving oscar 100 narrowband (es'hail2) with my channel master + sdrplay

RustySpoons

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frequencies found with a TBS 6983 and IBU
sr 125 is perfectly locked
View attachment 123820
Which IBU? My twin drops off like a cliff edge and doesn't see the narrowband transmissions.
 
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Ohhhhh kaaaay, my head hurts ! So my 5925 is useless basically. I will soon get a 5927, in the meantime I will try the RTL SDR/ bias t way I guess. Thanks all anyway

I did say experiment with an older style LNB, the oscillator system employed is not the only reason.
 
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1.20 Channel master ( Paris)and 1200 Laminas ( Bavaria) KU and C Band
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Can you see the SSB/Narrowband TV portion of the band?
Where should I look for this SBB / narrowband?
for narrow-band TVs, you have all the examples here:
 
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what we can see with a LNB that is not PLL; it isdb1-vert.jpg
the fluctuation of the frequencies measured from one day to another.
 
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what we can see with a LNB that is not PLL; it isView attachment 123831
the fluctuation of the frequencies measured from one day to another.
Which receiver are you using to get those numbers ? It might not be just the LNB that is causing the frequency variation.

A PLL lnb is not always more stable than a good DRO design.
 
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Openbox SX6 and S3 Mini, Dr HD 15, Octagon SF 4008 and Octagon SX88and SX8 HD One, TBS 6983
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@ s-band and Channel Hopper
That's my setting for IQmonitor
and it is with a TBS 6983
good luck
einstellung Ku bas.jpg
 
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@stephan94 Many thanks. It worked when I set the LNB as you have it. Setting to "Custom" with extended range but still with 10.6G switch gave the problems. It works when set to Custom but with both LO1 & LO2 set to 9750.
 
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Bavaria and Paris
@ s-band
You are welcome :Y
 
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Just looking through my collection of LNB's here, I have a suspicious feeling the Inverto Black Premium Single (Not Ultra) Might be a PLL design.
 
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Pictures or it didn't happen.
 
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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
Pictures or it didn't happen.
Was testing LNB's today and can confirm the Inverto Black Premium Single is a PLL design and works outside it's designed frequencies, receiving Es'Hail2/QO-100 Narrowband SSB and DATV very well with it, surprisingly stable too. Part number is: IDLB-SINL41-PREMU-OPP
I tried a Single and Twin Black Ultra and they are definitely DRO and fall off like a cliff edge out of band.
 
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My Satellite Setup
1.20 Channel master ( Paris)and 1200 Laminas ( Bavaria) KU and C Band
Openbox SX6 and S3 Mini, Dr HD 15, Octagon SF 4008 and Octagon SX88and SX8 HD One, TBS 6983
My Location
Bavaria and Paris
I work now with an LNB Edision QSL-4
the results are very satisfactory and I have not been able
to measure a noticeable difference with the IBU.
125158
 
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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
I work now with an LNB Edision QSL-4
the results are very satisfactory and I have not been able
to measure a noticeable difference with the IBU.
View attachment 125158
Does this receive Es'hail amateur frequencies and is it PLL? It is very cheap on Amazon here.
 
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My Satellite Setup
1.20 Channel master ( Paris)and 1200 Laminas ( Bavaria) KU and C Band
Openbox SX6 and S3 Mini, Dr HD 15, Octagon SF 4008 and Octagon SX88and SX8 HD One, TBS 6983
My Location
Bavaria and Paris
Does this receive Es'hail amateur frequencies and is it PLL? It is very cheap on Amazon here.
As you can see, I have no problem to receive all frequencies up to sr 100.
But this only possible with my TBS6983 card and programs like IQMonitor or Crazyscan or EBSpro
with a modified StreamReader.ini.
here I made available a crazyscan that works with these frequencies (especially do not change anything)
This does not work with conventional receivers.
I do not know if this LNB is PLL
 
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My Satellite Setup
50E - 30W
2x CM 1.2m Polar Mount/Jack
65E- 65W
Gibertini 1m OP100 - STAB HH100 - Inverto Black Ultra 0.2 Twin
Mutant HD51
Edision Primo IP S2
Dreambox DM800HD
Venton Unibox HD2
Sony Bravia 55" 4K
My Location
South Wales
Es'hail2/QO-100 Beacon, Minitiouner V2 (Custom PSU/22KHz Board)
Octagon Green Quad

125159
 
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