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<blockquote data-quote="Vipersan" data-source="post: 1018354" data-attributes="member: 325666"><p>Pulled off another minor miracle ..</p><p>I tried and tried to add windows 3.1 to the triple boot ..but no way was this happening ..</p><p>My conclusion fwiw is the early DOS underpinning 3.1 was at odds with later OS ..</p><p>..and is FAT based ..not FAT32</p><p>..crucial I feel..that all OS use the same format.</p><p>so gave up on this and decided to chase ME instead ..</p><p>More issues here as ME only runs when overlayed on DOS 8 ..</p><p>but figuring All dos from 8 backwards through to 5 _should_ be backwards compatible ..</p><p>in theory ..</p><p>Nowhere could I get a definitive answer on the net ..so I just went for it ..</p><p>I used Minitool partition util which allowed me to clone the first Primary partition (Win95C) to create a second primary partition in the raw drive space ..</p><p>Then a third primary ..</p><p>So effectively creating 3 theoretically bootable images of win 95C ..BUT used a startup diskette created on an entirely seperate HD build of ME ..</p><p>Thus it _should_ be DOS 8 ?</p><p>I then copied all the files off 2 other seperate drives ..including the 'hidden' bat and sys files for win95C and Win98SE ..</p><p>these files were stored safely for later use ..then ALL partitions were cleared of files each being and exact sized empty clone of each other.</p><p>Next Windows ME was reinstalled on the 3rd partition using minitool to hide the 1st and second ...</p><p>Using the boot recovery diskette (DOS 8) made on the seperate ME build ...once completed I then reinstalled 98SE ..to the 2nd partition once again using the DOS8 boot floppy ..and hiding partitions 1 and 3</p><p>..and finally repeating this to reinstall 95C on the first partition ...after hiding the other 2</p><p>All the drivers now needed reinstalling ...but wait ..</p><p>I'd saved the complete installations of each OS earlier ..so wrote these files back to each relevant partition ...in sequence after un-hiding the required partition..</p><p>Still with me ..??</p><p>lol</p><p>The final act was to once again hide all 3 partitions ...hook the drive up to Chameleon ..and install GAG ..</p><p>GAG will unhide each selected partition whilst hiding t'others ..</p><p>..powered up and waited for the boot screen ..and selected each in turn ..</p><p>WOW ..they all booted just fine ..but wih a slight delay each time ..</p><p>This I can live with ..</p><p>Stability tests to come ..but all drivers are already installed.</p><p>I suspect this fudge works because basically all 3 OS are DOS underpinned ..and using the final DOS production(8) which appears backwards compatible with all 3 OS ..</p><p>Not sure if this actually _should_ be possible at all ..</p><p>but amazingly ..it works..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vipersan, post: 1018354, member: 325666"] Pulled off another minor miracle .. I tried and tried to add windows 3.1 to the triple boot ..but no way was this happening .. My conclusion fwiw is the early DOS underpinning 3.1 was at odds with later OS .. ..and is FAT based ..not FAT32 ..crucial I feel..that all OS use the same format. so gave up on this and decided to chase ME instead .. More issues here as ME only runs when overlayed on DOS 8 .. but figuring All dos from 8 backwards through to 5 _should_ be backwards compatible .. in theory .. Nowhere could I get a definitive answer on the net ..so I just went for it .. I used Minitool partition util which allowed me to clone the first Primary partition (Win95C) to create a second primary partition in the raw drive space .. Then a third primary .. So effectively creating 3 theoretically bootable images of win 95C ..BUT used a startup diskette created on an entirely seperate HD build of ME .. Thus it _should_ be DOS 8 ? I then copied all the files off 2 other seperate drives ..including the 'hidden' bat and sys files for win95C and Win98SE .. these files were stored safely for later use ..then ALL partitions were cleared of files each being and exact sized empty clone of each other. Next Windows ME was reinstalled on the 3rd partition using minitool to hide the 1st and second ... Using the boot recovery diskette (DOS 8) made on the seperate ME build ...once completed I then reinstalled 98SE ..to the 2nd partition once again using the DOS8 boot floppy ..and hiding partitions 1 and 3 ..and finally repeating this to reinstall 95C on the first partition ...after hiding the other 2 All the drivers now needed reinstalling ...but wait .. I'd saved the complete installations of each OS earlier ..so wrote these files back to each relevant partition ...in sequence after un-hiding the required partition.. Still with me ..?? lol The final act was to once again hide all 3 partitions ...hook the drive up to Chameleon ..and install GAG .. GAG will unhide each selected partition whilst hiding t'others .. ..powered up and waited for the boot screen ..and selected each in turn .. WOW ..they all booted just fine ..but wih a slight delay each time .. This I can live with .. Stability tests to come ..but all drivers are already installed. I suspect this fudge works because basically all 3 OS are DOS underpinned ..and using the final DOS production(8) which appears backwards compatible with all 3 OS .. Not sure if this actually _should_ be possible at all .. but amazingly ..it works.. [/QUOTE]
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