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How come, i have never give out, or even used my Internet providers email address, and it receives loads of SPAM!!!!
Conclusion, Zen must be selling our addresses so advertising companies can abuse our inbox!!!
i bought my own domain from easily.co.uk and the email i use with them, gets abused with spam too!!! but thats down to them
im sick of it, i must get about 50 crap emails everyday.

How would these companys like it if i set up a rule and redirected all this spam into the sales inbox at their end.

first winge of 2006 folks :)
 

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Get yourself Mailwasher or one of the other mailbox prescanners.
h**p://www.mailwasher.net

Use it to interrogate your mail box, then delete the rubbish without the spam viruses etc ever coming anywhere near the computer.

A recent study (November ish) showed spam accounted for 98.5% of all emails sent..........
 

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When ever I get a new ISP address I never use it, instead I use a dummy address which I can delete whenever the rubbish starts coming in.
Now I get very little spam, mostly from companies I have dealt with and if it get's too much I delete old address and use new one.

:-hny
 
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The only good "spam" is in sandwiches with Daddies sauce or in fritters:-thumbup
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Analoguesat said:
Get yourself Mailwasher or one of the other mailbox prescanners.
h**p://www.mailwasher.net

Use it to interrogate your mail box, then delete the rubbish without the spam viruses etc ever coming anywhere near the computer.
I've been using it for a long time and it's excellent. I like to bounce stuff I don't want.
 

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right well i did a whois trace and found the person responsible
Francisco Lorenzo de Tuero
TELEFONICA DE ESPANA
Emilio Vargas, 4
28043-MADRID
SPAIN
email addy: francisco.lorenzodetuero@telefonica.es
guess what hes getting, for the next 12 months :D
lets see if he wants any Viagra, penis enlargements, diet pills etc etc

if any of you lot would like to email him...be my guest, he deserves it lol

mailwasher sounds good, but im having week of fighting back first, and redirecting a bit of mail, but i am going to redirect it back to myself first 10 times, before sending it back out at the end of each day.... thats 500 mails a day he getting. and all the others that are soon to be on my hit list :)
going through each mail now and tracing em

if i send it to their abuse@ IP think that might get a reaction :)
 

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Demon, ISP, set up several spoof email accounts that only they know exist - any mail that is sent to these addresses is deleted from all mailboxes - it is very effective.

The Mac has it's own mail application with a Junk filter that learns over a period then automatically removes it.

GMail is also very good at blocking Spam - unfortunately you can only get a googlemail.com name now as some company has managed to stop them using gmail.com in the UK.

Never open a spam email as this indicates to the sender the mail account is active and you will receive many more...
 

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I don't mind the penis enlargement ones or the Viagra,missis says i need all the help i can get:-thumbup
 

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LOL, beat me to it Oily :D

RD, careful you don't get blacklisted as a spammer yourself. It could easily (and rather ironically, I'm sure you'll agree) happen.

Better to just post the address all over the net - forums, review sites, newsgroups etc...
 

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i am making a excel file with all the relevent info in it...
ad details, IP abuse email and full name and address of all the spam i get...

i would imagine its the same spam were all getting too
might take a while, i have stopped now, my eyes are going funny lol
will post the attachment when im done so you can all have a nosey.

i know why the grammer is bad on most of it now... its mainly from asia!!
 

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RedDevil_UK said:
right well i did a whois trace and found the person responsible
Francisco Lorenzo de Tuero
TELEFONICA DE ESPANA
Emilio Vargas, 4
28043-MADRID
SPAIN
email addy: francisco.lorenzodetuero@telefonica.es
guess what hes getting, for the next 12 months :D
lets see if he wants any Viagra, penis enlargements, diet pills etc etc

Hey,

In answer to your question, how do the spamers got my email address that I have never given out? Well, it's possible what you suggest but I'm enclined to believe that this has nothing to do with Zen. Spamers use tools to generate emails addresses and they do get a very good rate of success with them, simply because people prefer using email addresses that reflect their names or busines names. For Example a John Smith is likely to use a John_Smith@hotmail.com, J_Smith@.... etc. These addresse are easily created by the tools that spamers use. If you were to use something like 173054J0hn7393Smith@hotmail.com then the spammers would have a big problem to guess your address and probably would buy it to know it.

With regards to the address you found by doing a who is, I'm not saying that he didn't do it BUT the chances are that his email is simply been used by a spammer to spam other people.... so the spammer would never be found out. This is something that spammers do a lot.... About a year ago I received an email from my own account...I still don't know how they stole it.....

I got fed up fighting the spammers about a year ago so I create a couple of new accounts and also joined spamgourmet... I hardly get any spams now and if I do, I'd know exactly who sold the address


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When some unwanted applications gains access to your PC they harvest your email 'in' and 'out' box for addresses you have 'sent' or 'recieved' mail they then use these addresses to send their spam.

That is why you receive bounced 'undelivered' mail that you never originally sent.

This enables the scammer to remain anonymous.
 

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salvador said:
With regards to the address you found by doing a who is, I'm not saying that he didn't do it BUT the chances are that his email is simply been used by a spammer to spam other people.... so the spammer would never be found out. This is something that spammers do a lot.... About a year ago I received an email from my own account...I still don't know how they stole it.....
Salvador

I could not agree more the poor guy could be completely innocent in all this and anyhow his Email box would be flooded in a couple of days achieving what???

No disrespect RedDevil_UK but you may have a keylogger on your pc as I know that Zen would not give the address away.
 

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The ones i don't like are from these mature content dating agencies,or is that just me?:eek:;)
 

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gameboy said:
When some unwanted applications gains access to your PC they harvest your email 'in' and 'out' box for addresses you have 'sent' or 'recieved' mail they then use these addresses to send their spam.

That is why you receive bounced 'undelivered' mail that you never originally sent.

This enables the scammer to remain anonymous.

Very true BUT I have heard of people sending trojans / backdoor through this method too.

Sometimes a person that doesn't know much about this things will open the attachment, thinking it's the message, and get infected with a backdoor Once you have a backdoor in your system you are at the mercy of a hacker.... to start with, he will disable your AV and could even change your registry so that when you receive an attachment you think is safe to open, ie .gif, but it's now an executable....

Most people think a backdoor is similar to a virus but IMO it's worse. A virus will do the damage and that's it... you would know that you have a virus, however, a backdoor works differently... most of the time it comes through an email or a program that you download.... A hacker could bind together a picture and a backdoor into an executable file.... if you don't know what you are doing you could happily double click on the executable and you will see the picture but in the background the backdoor will quiatly install itself and inmediatelly disable your AV. From that moments onwards the backdoor would use a way to notify a hacker your IP address whenever you go online so that, he with the aid of another program, can control your PC... he could find out what windows you have apened, what you are typing, view you hard disk as you do through file explorer, etc,etc. So... you are indeed at the mercy of the hacker... if he doesn't like you he could destroy your system in seconds or simply spy on you.

You might be wondering how come I know all this!!! Well, about 4 years ago I found something wear in my PC and I set out to find out what is was.... eventually I found that it was a backdoor and somebody was playing jokes on me... disabling the keyboard, the mouse, etc... I decided to buy the best AV I could find and after reading from different AV vendors I still wasn't sure who to believe.... until one day I had a thought... whom, apart from vendors, should know about AV? Hackers!!!! the next step was to find a few websites and there is where I learnt all this and much more...

Most importantly, I learnt that Norton AV is pretty and easy to use but is C.R.A.P. as AV

Sometimes you look at your startup programs and you can't tell a good program from a bad one unless you have some information on the subject... a good program could be registered as MSN.exe while a bad one could be registered as MSN.EXE... From time to time I double check the entries on my startups against w*w.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php I'm sorry I went way off course with this thread....

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I no longer bounce Emails, as all it is doing is bouncing them to a dead address on a lot of occasions and also creating double the spam traffic that there was in the first place.

If you have your own website, then don't have a catchall address, use one address and ideally not webmaster or admin, that will normally cut down the spam.
 
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