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Yes but you said the test card has no signal? I'm getting all the other channels on it but no test card.
Previous report of no signal was probably due to rain,

What other channels do you get from 3 west ?

I have 11682 V 19410 id=D-382 FRBG 3K24 on the 100cm dish TM6902 gives 48% SQ encrypted
 
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Yes but you said the test card has no signal? I'm getting all the other channels on it but no test card.

The ABS test card is back now, it was absent earlier today but now returned.
 
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While the Octagon SX88 is a very good receiver however it would be a better guide to signal quality if it was in dB % like the Dr HD & TM5400 M3,
The SX88 gives me lots of SQ=100% that display the correct SQ on the TM6902HD,

The list below is a good example of this when you compare this chart with the one that I compiled in post #6 of this thread for the SX88 with 88cm dish:-

This guide is for setting up either a fixed or Motorised dish system.
Strongest TP on 31.5e for me is 12402 V 30000 DVB-S2 8PSK, location: Southern UK
 
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Previous report of no signal was probably due to rain,

What other channels do you get from 3 west ?

I have 11682 V 19410 id=D-382 FRBG 3K24 on the 100cm dish TM6902 gives 48% SQ encrypted
I have SW update and a load of Tippmix Info
Signal 64%

Got the ABS Testcard but only 15% tonight lol
 
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mikeisyou

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Definitely a contender for the Weakest transponders list
Got it to 22% 3.4dB if I nudge this dish a step or 2. What are you getting it at?
 
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Got it to 22% 3.4dB if I nudge this dish a step or 2. What are you getting it at?
Getting 22% aswell on the Oct SX88+ 1.25m dish. I dont know why the signals so rubbish, the footprint is targeted at Europe and its not inclined.
 
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Getting 22% aswell on the Oct SX88+ 1.25m dish. I dont know why the signals so rubbish, the footprint is targeted at Europe and its not inclined.
You using USALS Or Diseqc, you have a bigger dish than me. Is it landing on 22%? can you tweak it to get any more?
 
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You using USALS Or Diseqc, you have a bigger dish than me. Is it landing on 22%? can you tweak it to get any more?
Using a VBox which is a doesn't work properly which means I can't fine tune but even if I could I don't think I would get anymore than 22%, also the dish sits underneath a tree which probably doesn't help either. On the good side though I've gone from 56% on some channels to 98% in the past month from various improvements I've been carrying out.
 
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Using a VBox which is a doesn't work properly which means I can't fine tune but even if I could I don't think I would get anymore than 22%, also the dish sits underneath a tree which probably doesn't help either. On the good side though I've gone from 56% on some channels to 98% in the past month from various improvements I've been carrying out.
That's great news, did the coax help at all?
 
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That's great news, did the coax help at all?
Yep I would say so, some frequencies have remained relatively the same whilst others have improved more than 50% (by replacing the LNB with an IBU, using WF125 coax and getting a more sensitive receiver). The coax itself I would say improved the signal about 15-18% on some transponders. Overall most satellites are coming in loud and clear apart from 3W, I can now pickup the sub-saharan african beam on 36e and even the high beam on 31e which I couldn't before. The only thing I can do to improve the signal even more is either a bigger dish (neighbours won't be happy) or modifying the LNB which I plan on doing later this year.
 
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Raven 88cm Mesh Dish +TM-0.1
Stab100 H to H (120° max)
(53 east to 45 west)
Octagon SX88+ (A/B switch), TM5302HD

45cm dish SpiderboxHD9000 28E
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I have SW update and a load of Tippmix Info
Signal 64%

Got the ABS Testcard but only 15% tonight lol
Tippmix Info if from Amos-7 @ 3.9 west
 
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Raven 88cm Mesh Dish +TM-0.1
Stab100 H to H (120° max)
(53 east to 45 west)
Octagon SX88+ (A/B switch), TM5302HD

45cm dish SpiderboxHD9000 28E
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is 3.9 strong enough to bleed over to 3w?


The bleed over from adjacent satellites with strong transponders is related to the beamwidth of the dish. Small dishes generally have a wider beamwidth than larger ones. If you compared a 1m dish to a 1.5m dish, a lot of the bleed over suffered by the 1m dish would be eliminated on the 1.5m dish
 
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45cm dish SpiderboxHD9000 28E
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Strongest Transponders
Fully updated & new satellites added 21st March 2018 by William-1
$ = encrypted
All active Ku band satellites from 50° east to 45° west
TM6900HD + 100cm dish SQ = Signal Quality


Turksat 4B @ 50° east 11196 V 2222 TürkSat Tanitim SQ=80%
AzerSpace-1 @ 46° east 11135 H 27500 CBC Sport HD SQ=76%
Intelsat-904 @ 45.1° east 11635 V 30000 City TV SQ=81%
Türksat-4A @ 42° east 12034 V 27500 CNN Turk SQ=86%
Hellas Sat-3 @ 39° east 12251 V 28330 ERT World SQ=85%
Eutelsat-36B @ 36° east 11212 H 14400 Rustavi 2 SQ=80%
Eutelsat-33C @ 33.1° east 11428 V 10100 S2 Turf tv $ SQ= 90%
Astra-5B @ 31.5° east 11993 H 27500 Data stream SQ=62%
Astra-2E @ 28.5° east 10847 V 23000 BBC-1 HD SQ=92%
Badr-4 @ 26° east 11996 H 27500 Euronews English SQ=71%
Astra-3B @ 23.5°east 11798 H 29500 Rebel SQ=83%
Eutelsat-21B @ 21.6° east 11394 H 2690 Topaz-1$ SQ=81%
Astra-1KR @ 19.2° east 11229 V 22000 BBC World SQ=86%
Eutelsat-16A @ 16° east 11426 V 27500 RTK SQ=80%
Hotbird-13B @ 13°east 10949 V 27500 CNBC Europe SQ=87%
Eutelsat-10A @ 10° east 11520 H 1100 Nabaa SQ=91%
Eutelsat-9A @ 9° east 12034 V 27500 W9 Swiss HD SQ=85%
Eutelsat-7A @ 7° east 11221 H 27500 TFM Senagal SQ=84%
Eutelsat-7B @ 7° east 12556 V 4035 HD Fox Sports $ SQ=81%
SES-5 @ 5 east 11345 H 30000 SBN SQ=63%
Astra-4A @ 4.8° east 11766 H 27500 1+1 Ukraine SQ=82%
Eutelsat-3B @ 3.1° east 12526 H 4444 2M Monde SQ=83%
BulgariaSat-1 @ 1.9° east 12380 H 30000 Arena Sport $ SQ=88%
Thor-6 @ 0.8° west 12418 V 28000 Sky News Int SQ=85%
Intelsat-10-02 @ 1° west 12562 V 27500 Speranta TV SQ=75%
ABS-3A @ 3° west 11461 V 2992 ABS test card sq=42%
Amos 7 @ 3.9°west 11568 H 15000 Tippmix info $ SQ=73%
Eutelsat-5West A @ 5° west 12562 V 29950 Berbere Music SQ=88%
Eutelsat-7West A @ 7.3° west 10719 V 22000 Qatar TV SQ=63%
Eutelsat-8West B @ 8 °west 12521 H 27500 Al Jazeera Eng HD SQ=63%
Express-AM44 @ 11° west 11565 H 8000 Reteconomy SQ=75%
Eutelsat-12West A @ 12.5° west 11008 V 2141 Rede Int TV SQ=90%
Express-AM8 @ 14° west 10974 H 2963 Al Manor SQ=75%
Telstar--12 Vantage @ 15° west 11568 H 2678 BYU SQ=85%
NSS-7 @20° west (incl. 2.4°) 12512 H 3320 TFC $ SQ=80%
SES-4 -- @ 22° west 11162 H 14365 NHL $ SQ=85%
Intelsat-905 @ 24.5° west 11133 V 14115 NTA SQ=78%
Intelsat-907 @ 27.5° west 11495 V 44100 BBC 1 HD $ SQ=81%
Hispasat 30W-5 @ 30°west 12092 V 27500 Cubavision SQ=88%
Hylas-1 @ 33.5°west 12483 V 15000 Albertis DTT data SQ= 85%
Intelsat 35e @ 34.5°west 11023 H 5000 Data SQ=88%
Telstar 11N @ 37.5° west 11455 V 4800 Hotel B feed $ SQ=75%
Intelsat-14 @ 45° west 11605 H 990 China Radio International SQ=77%

This guide is for setting up either a fixed or Motorised dish system.
 

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The bleed over from adjacent satellites with strong transponders is related to the beamwidth of the dish. Small dishes generally have a wider beamwidth than larger ones. If you compared a 1m dish to a 1.5m dish, a lot of the bleed over suffered by the 1m dish would be eliminated on the 1.5m dish
This calls for a bigger dish!
 
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This calls for a bigger dish!

I have listed below the beamwidths for the Elite Antennas range of prime focus dishes. You can see how the beamwidth degree is narrowing with increase in dish size and thereby reducing bleedover.

Size Beamwidth (degrees)
0.9m 2.07
1.2m 1.40
1.5m 1.20
1.8m 1.03
2.2m 0.79
2.4m 0.77
3.0m 0.60
3.7m 0.47
4.5m 0.40


Go large !!
 
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I have listed below the beamwidths for the Elite Antennas range of prime focus dishes. You can see how the beamwidth degree is narrowing with increase in dish size and thereby reducing bleedover.

Size Beamwidth (degrees)
0.9m 2.07
1.2m 1.40
1.5m 1.20
1.8m 1.03
2.2m 0.79
2.4m 0.77
3.0m 0.60
3.7m 0.47
4.5m 0.40


Go large !!
That's very interesting! I should have a 1.2m here soon. Quite a difference!
 
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