Telstar 12 Vantage.

[Lazarus]

^^^^^

15W ........

 

[Llew]

Do you get a lock now?+-

According to https://satkurier.pl/news/2342…ack-zmienia-satelite.html there a jamming signal on

11,014V (SR: 107140, FEC: 3/4; DVB-S2X/8PSK) using the Med Central Beam which also covers Germany.

Any jamming of those beams won't concern me, as I can only receive the North Sea and Med West beams. There is some overlap of those beams here in East Anglia - I can lock the CNN Backup on 11295H and a couple of other tps from Med West.

When BBC Satback disappeared for a while (coffee break?) yesterday morning, there was no sign of any interference or indeed any breakthrough of signal from any other beams in that spot (post # 123).

Today's scan -

 

[Analoguesat]

A massive signal again here. (nr Kelso Scottish Borders)

Antenna is an 80cm dish offset lnb - the primary focus on 22W.



(Ignore the 31.W satellite position - thats just a spare slot I hijacked!)

 

[FC GD]

Do you get a lock now?

According to https://satkurier.pl/news/2342…ack-zmienia-satelite.html there a jamming signal on

11,014V (SR: 107140, FEC: 3/4; DVB-S2X/8PSK) using the Med Central Beam which also covers Germany.

ATM in Germany no lock possible, as both beams Med Central and North Sea are overlapping.

Maybe someone from Germany or/and another part of the continent can show us on the spectrum what this overlap looks like on the two beams in his/their area.
Thanks.

You can have a look to the spectrum in the response from stephan94 15.0°W Telstar 12V - Satellites Community

I am somewhere in the middle of Med Central and the NorthSea beams. For my location, it looks like two beams are overlapping and competing with each other.
If we look at that big chunk between 10950 and 11074, in the central europe it is a single transponder (11,014V SR: 107140, FEC: 3/4; DVB-S2X/8PSK) and it is the dominant one. Maybe reception for us in the middle of the beams is still a possibility. I’ve ordered a bigger antenna and am looking forward to conducting some tests.

 

[Analoguesat]

Hmm I wonder....

Is that placing of BBC Satback between two competing signals deliberate? Id bet it is - to further restrict coverage.

 

[EnoSat]

The fact that a report is sent to FlySat or Lyngsat is secondary, but it doesn't surprise me in your case.

My goal is not to receive DX, but to find out TS content.
Therefore, Lyngsat, Flysat and others on these lists do not publish the location of the user, but only the nickname.
To find out where and on which device the signal user is received are used other pages.
For example, how have you progressed in processing DVB-NIP ?
Or are you waiting again for someone to give you know-how ?

 

[FC GD]

Hmm I wonder....

Is that placing of BBC Satback between two competing signals deliberate? Id bet it is - to further restrict coverage.

I know it sounds kinda silly and it is not correct but what if my reception device is dumb enough and doesn't know about DVB-S2X and I have a bigger antenna and I set parameters manually and BBC’s freq is a little bit stronger and with a fec value of 9/10….

A bigger antenna will also pick up more of the unwanted beam but maybe It is still worth trying.?.

 

[Analoguesat]

Try it & see. I dont think it will do anything worthwhile as you will be receiving more of the unwanted signal as well at the wanted stuff. That 9/10 fec is really going to hurt out of area reception too.

 

[Butacas]

Uncoded PID's, any compatible deco could handle it now.

 

[Analoguesat]

Yup channels have scanned in on my TM5402. - just black screens on this device though.

Im a bit puzzled as to why religious guff TBN is included in the mux though - I would have thought that was a very low priority addition....

 

[SatSearcher]

Just noticed this morning that they are now scanning in as 'normal' TV & Radio services, rather than data channels.

 

[rodscha]

11043V 44100
no signal here,when the $ESPN come in nice and strong...

 

[stpierre]

It appears that the beam "northsea" is used for this frequency !

 

[scopus]

Yep..All good here..

 

[william-1]

Good signals here.

 

[Andreasgrdx]

It appears that the beam "northsea" is used for this frequency !

This is part of Downlink Frequency Plan of Telstar 12 Vantage (15.0° West) .

 

[solly]

i can ask same member to build table like astra 2e and astra 2f and 2g footprint of Area got lock signal italy north 2m and more germany and belgium and slovanevia more 4 .5 m

 

[StefanoFI]

For what is worth, since people with bigger dishes have already failed, no lock from Central Italy with a 1.8 m Channel Master.
I may have a look with a spectrum analyser to check if at least I can see a bit of signal (though the other beam may well cover it), but locking is very unlikely, at least judging from the beam technical data and from this first quick nightly attempt.

 

[lovelyperson]

Pleasant surprise, looking at the beam and reception reports managed to secure the attached as:-

Alicante, España.......1.8m Marrafa, 15.4ºC and cloudy.

Reception tuned thanks to the GoldMaster SR-525HD.

Octagon SF8008 4k Twin and GT Media Combo compare.

Pleased.

 

[Analoguesat]

We know that (most) broadcast satellites are capable of being operational far longer than their design life. Barring impact from a micro meteor or debris / onboard electronics failure the main reason for withrawal from service is depletion of onboard station keeping fuel.

Thhe MEV space tug concept has been successfully demonstrated twice now, there is no reason that it wont work just as successfully in the future. Thus SES could contract for 5 or 10 years lifetime extension quite easily for any of their spacecraft that are low on fuel but are otherwise healthy. With the forthcoming decline in satellite delivery of broadcast television services as its replaced by IP delivery there is currently little incentive for companies to spend millions of $ of shareholders money for multiple spacecraft that might never be fully utilised & therefore fail to make their build, launch & operational costs back.

IP delivery of everything is coming. Broadcasters are deperate to ditch linear transmission formate simply they have no real idea if any particular programme is popular with audiences. IP delivery means they can hoover up all that lovely data about EXACTLY what people are watching, how long its being watched, what programmes are doing well.

Or provide you properly tailored targetted advertising.

Or upsell premium services without having to share revenue with other companies.

Or of course just sell your watching & listening histories on to 3rd parties.

If you dont believe me just bear this in mind - the BBC knew details of what were the popular tv programmes on iplayer over the lucrative xmas & New year period for 2022 & 2023 by 4th January!

January 2023

BBC iPlayer and BBC Sounds smash festive records

EastEnders, Call the Midwife, The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse, The Traitors and Sam Ryder Rocks New Year's Eve topped the list of most watched programmes and on BBC Sounds, there were a record 57.7 million plays of all content between 20 December and 2 January, boosted by three new Miss...

www.bbc.co.uk

January 2024

iPlayer sets new viewing record over Xmas

Viewers flocked to BBC iPlayer during the Christmas week (December 25th-31st 2023) setting a new all-time iPlayer record. The week saw programmes streamed 177 m

advanced-television.com

EastEnders, Vigil, Rick Astley Rocks New Year’s Eve, Call the Midwife and Doctor Who drive record-breaking festive viewing on BBC iPlayer

That week saw programmes streamed a record-breaking 177m times

www.bbc.co.uk

That sort of level of data is literally priceless for commercial tv companies.

Still dont believe me about the advantages of ip delivery of tv for broadcasters?

Read this

Channel 4 shares plans to become digital-first public service streamer by 2030 | Channel 4

Channel 4 today unveiled an ambitious five-year strategy to reshape the organisation and accelerate its transformation into an agile, genuinely digital-first public service streamer by 2030. The strategy – called Fast Forward – will ensure Channel 4 embraces the generational shift that is taking...

www.channel4.com