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<blockquote data-quote="Hitchcock" data-source="post: 136373" data-attributes="member: 196478"><p>In Ireland (and Spain), there are — strictly speaking — two <a href="http://www.lyngsat.com/america.html" target="_blank">American satellites</a> above the horizon (i.e. you can point your dish at them in the sky), both of which carry the U.S. networks: <span style="color: darkgreen">Echostar 3</span> at 61.5°W (carries all the networks except NBC and FOX) and <span style="color: darkred">DirecTV 1</span> at 72.5°W (carries all 7 networks).</p><p></p><p>Both these satellites, HOWEVER, have "footprints" which are solely focused on North America and so anyone able to point their dishes at these satellites across the Atlantic in Europe will still have a problem, because he or she is "out of footprint"; in fact, <u>way</u> out of footprint!</p><p></p><p>Having said that, this doesn't mean that it is still not <u>theoretically</u> possible to pick up the signals from those satellites, but it would require a VERY BIG dish, meaning probably anywhere in the range of, say, 10 to 50 meters in diameter, could even be bigger than that (or it could be smaller!). No one knows yet, or at least I don't know yet. It would be really interesting to know just how big a dish was needed in, say, Ireland (or Spain/Portugal) or at least to know if it was possible with a < 10 m dish (It has been <a href="http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?p=1252303#post1252303" target="_blank">reported</a> that <span style="color: darkgreen">Echostar 3</span> has been received in Iceland [with a 5 or 6 m dish?], and in Tenerife (Canary Islands) with a 2.4 m dish, both places nowhere near the "official" footprint.).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In that case, then you are most likely able to point your dish at another satellite, <a href="http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/expressvu2.html" target="_blank">Nimiq 2</a> at 82°W, as well (it's just above the horizon). If U.S. TV is what you're after, then this satellite is perhaps the most interesting proposition. It's a Canadian satellite <span style="color: #0000ff">and</span> <span style="color: #0000ff">it has all 4 major U.S. networks on board</span> <span style="color: #0000ff">— in </span><span style="color: magenta">High Definition</span>! (It also carries Discovery and NFL Sunday Ticket – again, both in HD!)</p><p></p><p>However, as with the other two satellites, you are still <span style="color: #ff0000">way out of footprint</span>! But since this satellite is further west, it looks down onto its target – i.e. the continental U.S. (and Canada) – at a different angle than its neighbour satellites to the east, such as <span style="color: darkgreen">Echostar 3</span>, which means that if both satellites have similar footprints, then the one which is further west is more likely to spill over to the east, i.e. towards Europe, or at least that is how I see it somehow. :-shifty So, again, I think it would be interesting to see just how big a dish were needed to catch this bird as well as all the other <em>CONUS</em> birds to the east of it. </p><p></p><p>Also, it seems, the "unthinkable" HAS been achieved in some places: there is some guy in Brazil (according to TSI amongst others) who watches <u>ASTRA 1</u>!!! If you have a look at the <a href="http://www.ses-astra.com/satellites/footprints.shtml" target="_blank">footprint for Astra 1 (19.2°E)</a>, and then have a <a href="http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/satellite.html" target="_blank">look at the earth exactly as it looks like from the satellite in orbit</a>, you will notice just how FAAAAAAAAR away Brazil is from the official footprint! Considering his location, I am truly amazed that he manages to pull it off with "ONLY" an <strong><u>8 m</u></strong> dish!!!</p><p></p><p>But don't get me wrong here, don't go off and buy a huge 5-10 m dish straight away, for starters those big antennas are bl***y expensive! And also I do wonder if it isn't possible to just measure the raw signal coming off the satellite first using a "small" dish and then calculate/determine what size of dish would be needed. Maybe some expert could elaborate more on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hitchcock, post: 136373, member: 196478"] In Ireland (and Spain), there are — strictly speaking — two [url="http://www.lyngsat.com/america.html"]American satellites[/url] above the horizon (i.e. you can point your dish at them in the sky), both of which carry the U.S. networks: [color=darkgreen]Echostar 3[/color] at 61.5°W (carries all the networks except NBC and FOX) and [color=darkred]DirecTV 1[/color] at 72.5°W (carries all 7 networks). Both these satellites, HOWEVER, have "footprints" which are solely focused on North America and so anyone able to point their dishes at these satellites across the Atlantic in Europe will still have a problem, because he or she is "out of footprint"; in fact, [u]way[/u] out of footprint! Having said that, this doesn't mean that it is still not [u]theoretically[/u] possible to pick up the signals from those satellites, but it would require a VERY BIG dish, meaning probably anywhere in the range of, say, 10 to 50 meters in diameter, could even be bigger than that (or it could be smaller!). No one knows yet, or at least I don't know yet. It would be really interesting to know just how big a dish was needed in, say, Ireland (or Spain/Portugal) or at least to know if it was possible with a < 10 m dish (It has been [url="http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?p=1252303#post1252303"]reported[/url] that [color=darkgreen]Echostar 3[/color] has been received in Iceland [with a 5 or 6 m dish?], and in Tenerife (Canary Islands) with a 2.4 m dish, both places nowhere near the "official" footprint.). In that case, then you are most likely able to point your dish at another satellite, [url="http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/expressvu2.html"]Nimiq 2[/url] at 82°W, as well (it's just above the horizon). If U.S. TV is what you're after, then this satellite is perhaps the most interesting proposition. It's a Canadian satellite [color=#0000ff]and[/color] [color=#0000ff]it has all 4 major U.S. networks on board[/color] [color=#0000ff]— in [/color][color=magenta]High Definition[/color]! (It also carries Discovery and NFL Sunday Ticket – again, both in HD!) However, as with the other two satellites, you are still [color=#ff0000]way out of footprint[/color]! But since this satellite is further west, it looks down onto its target – i.e. the continental U.S. (and Canada) – at a different angle than its neighbour satellites to the east, such as [color=darkgreen]Echostar 3[/color], which means that if both satellites have similar footprints, then the one which is further west is more likely to spill over to the east, i.e. towards Europe, or at least that is how I see it somehow. :-shifty So, again, I think it would be interesting to see just how big a dish were needed to catch this bird as well as all the other [i]CONUS[/i] birds to the east of it. Also, it seems, the "unthinkable" HAS been achieved in some places: there is some guy in Brazil (according to TSI amongst others) who watches [u]ASTRA 1[/u]!!! If you have a look at the [url="http://www.ses-astra.com/satellites/footprints.shtml"]footprint for Astra 1 (19.2°E)[/url], and then have a [url="http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/satellite.html"]look at the earth exactly as it looks like from the satellite in orbit[/url], you will notice just how FAAAAAAAAR away Brazil is from the official footprint! Considering his location, I am truly amazed that he manages to pull it off with "ONLY" an [b][u]8 m[/u][/b][u][/u] dish!!! But don't get me wrong here, don't go off and buy a huge 5-10 m dish straight away, for starters those big antennas are bl***y expensive! And also I do wonder if it isn't possible to just measure the raw signal coming off the satellite first using a "small" dish and then calculate/determine what size of dish would be needed. Maybe some expert could elaborate more on that. [/QUOTE]
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