Wavefield T55

[Robbo]

- with one receiver surely the most that's sensible is four - since there's no bigger than a 4 way in the world of diseqc switches?

-cts

No need to be sensible with the Torroidal, fit as many on there as you can get working, LOL, the more the better!

 

[Huevos]

Is there any point of fitting more than 4 LNBs on the dish - with one receiver surely the most that's sensible is four - since there's no bigger than a 4 way in the world of diseqc switches?

DiSEqC allows up to 64 LNBs. I've got 23 on my first tuner at the moment.

 

[godzillafan]

DiSEqC allows up to 64 LNBs. I've got 23 on my first tuner at the moment.

H

How did you manage that

built the dish over the weekend T90 and screwed in the metal bars and so far 16 is just tghe min I can put on - BUT what switches did you use to get more than 16?
I going to use the emp 16/1 - is there a cheaper better method to get 20 - as I am going to buy 4 twins/quads (sky) to act on the main sats - 28, 19 13 and 1 more to run into the kids room.

The other 16 smart gold singles into main unit but with these 4 extra?

Whats the cheapest option I have.

As getting a offer on 10 sky quads - so the 4 left over I am keeping after mu uncle takes 6 for his T55

cheers

 

[Huevos]

so far 16 is just tghe min I can put on - BUT what switches did you use to get more than 16?
I going to use the emp 16/1 - is there a cheaper better method to get 20

I am using a couple of Spaun SUR 420 switches plus some DiSEqC 1.0s. EMP is the cheap option though if that is what you are looking for. To get more than 16 just add a DiSEqC 1.0 to one input of the EMP. Each DiSEqC 1.0 you add will get you another 3 LNBs. So it goes: 16, 19, 22, ... 58, 61, 64.

64 LNBs is the EMP 16:1, along with 16 DiSEqC 1.0 switches.

 

[RimaNTSS]

By cascading 2 1\10 DiseqCs SW101D after 1 DiseqC 1\4 (protocol 1.0) is possible to connect 22 birds. I am using such a cascades and they work good.

 

[closetosoton]

This thread is hotting up!

T90 bar.... seems I have one:

As well as the T55 I acquired this came with it, I assume its a T90 bar, loaded with 15 LNBs:

EMP switch looks good, do all receivers that support DiSEqC support this switch or is it only after a certain DiSEqC version? I think I've only seen receivers which suggest four birds, i.e. A,B,C & D...

-cts

 

[closetosoton]

Any one experience with: GD-81A 8/1 switch?

 

[Robbo]

EMP switch looks good, do all receivers that support DiSEqC support this switch or is it only after a certain DiSEqC version? I think I've only seen receivers which suggest four birds, i.e. A,B,C & D...

-cts

The receiver needs to have Diseqc 1.1 to be truly compatible with greater than 4 way switching.

Although there are some switches around that can 'pretend' to be Diseqc 1.2 motor.

 

[godzillafan]

OK guys

a couple of things

I am going to put a new thread on my new t90 setup in the photo page - hoepfully for the next 4 weeks that will chart my progress and fix any mistakes I make.

But in the meantime back to this diseqc problem I have - planned a 16/1 emp - we know that but to get 20 since the metal bars i have stuck on overhand the T90 bar so I can fit at least a few more on - in my case 20.

16 x smart single LNBs
4 x sky quads (to get the twins) BUT.........

Here is the problem so Loop comes into play here as well

if I get a 16/1 emp and 2 more emp 4/1s - does that mean I put 4 lnbs into each 4/1 emp to give me eight lnbs.
I then put two leads from there into the 16/1 emp (using up two slots) so I have 14 free!
Does this mean I can then have a overall 14 lnbs into the 16/1 emp and 8 (4 each) into the 4/1 emps.
making a grand total of 4+4+14=22
Can anyone confirm - or have I got this wrong again?

OR...OR....THEN

if i feed the main lead into the satbox to get the channels - in that sat box I decide to LOOP into another box - will that mean I dont need twins or quad as the 2nd box will see everything box 1 is getting? But I wont be able to watch sport on main box and cartoon in 2nd box????

Does that make sense - or is it easier to get some twins and feed 4 of the feeds from the (4skyquads) into a seperate 4/1 and feed that to the 2nd box - so my son can channel hop on his own and we wont need to watch his cartoon cbbcs etc - while I am watching the eurosport (with the other 20feeds into main box)

At the moment thats where I am stuck with the switch - not sure how to get more that 16 - is it the emp method above.

Just looking for the cheapest option - even if it mean buying a stack of 4/1 emps - 5 of them will get me 20, but what then - how do i get down to one wire into a satbox?

cheers guys -


ps Last question - have asked before but sky octo will that work on a 1.1M dish or 2 or 4 of them on multi holder - will they work since cheapest octo lnb route?

 

[Huevos]

there are some switches around that can 'pretend' to be Diseqc 1.2 motor.

The EMP can do that. The only problem is it mucks things up if you want to run a motor on one of the outputs.

 

[godzillafan]

I am using a couple of Spaun SUR 420 switches plus some DiSEqC 1.0s. EMP is the cheap option though if that is what you are looking for. To get more than 16 just add a DiSEqC 1.0 to one input of the EMP. Each DiSEqC 1.0 you add will get you another 3 LNBs. So it goes: 16, 19, 22, ... 58, 61, 64.

64 LNBs is the EMP 16:1, along with 16 DiSEqC 1.0 switches.

Hi H

Checked out the Spaun and they are a bit pricey compared to the EMP.
If I got the 16/1 emp and 2 x 4/1 emp

You mention that you will get another 3 lnbs 16..19...etc

How many wires go into each 4/1 emp and where exactly to they go once I have inputed the 3/4 wires?

I still cant make sense of it.

_http://www.satellite-heaven.de/technik/diseqc11.htm

I checked this - if I went this route but with EMPs - how many 4/1 will I need (or emp are no good for this_?



cheers

 

[Huevos]

Checked out the Spaun and they are a bit pricey compared to the EMP.

You get what you pay for.

If I got the 16/1 emp and 2 x 4/1 emp

You mention that you will get another 3 lnbs 16..19...etc

How many wires go into each 4/1 emp and where exactly to they go once I have inputed the 3/4 wires?

I still cant make sense of it.

_http://www.satellite-heaven.de/technik/diseqc11.htm

I checked this - if I went this route but with EMPs - how many 4/1 will I need (or emp are no good for this_?

I don't understand the question. You just cascade the switches. So you could have LNB -> DiSEqC 1.0 -> DiSEqC 1.1 -> receiver, ... or you could have LNB -> DiSEqC 1.1 -> DiSEqC 1.0 -> receiver. To get to 64 LNBs you either have one EMP 16:1 (or equivalent) and sixteen DiSEqC 1.0 switches, or, one DiSEqC 1.0 switch and four EMP 16:1.

 

[godzillafan]

You get what you pay for.
I don't understand the question. You just cascade the switches. So you could have LNB -> DiSEqC 1.0 -> DiSEqC 1.1 -> receiver, ... or you could have LNB -> DiSEqC 1.1 -> DiSEqC 1.0 -> receiver. To get to 64 LNBs you either have one EMP 16:1 (or equivalent) and sixteen DiSEqC 1.0 switches, or, one DiSEqC 1.0 switch and four EMP 16:1.

HI H

My fault I thinking the 64 lnbs reference is whats causing me the confusion.

Right its 20-24 lnbs

How do I get 20-24 lnbs into one receiver.

I know the 16/1 emp will cover the 16 originally planned, but as I have made some extra space on the bar. I am sticking 20-24 lnbs on there.

so where I am confused is that I cant figure out how many emps I will need.

This is what the 4/1 emp look like

_http://www.sw-sat.de/product_info.php/info/p458_emp-diseqc-schalter-4-1--mengenrabatt-.html

Will it be be a case of a bulk buy of 4/1 - maybe a mix of a 16/1 and 3 * 4/1s

I feed 16 lnbs into the 16/1emp. (16)
I feed 4 lnbs into the 4/1 (+4)
I feed 4 lnbs into the 4/1 (+4)

and then those 3 wire into a 4/1 to obtain 24 lnbs or 20 if I use 1 less 4/1.

Does this make sense or is this all wrong.

I know it says that 64 can be done with emp - but how do you get 20 or 24?

cheers

 

[Robbo]

Simply put.. (assuming that the EMP 16way is totally diseqc 1.1)

Each input from the switch can be fed from a 4 way diseqc 1.0 switch (giving you 4 inputs instead of 1 for each input), or if not needed you can feed from the LNB directly.

Did you find a data sheet for the EMP 16 way?

 

[RimaNTSS]

2 Godzillagan: This should be your diagramm

 

[godzillafan]

2 Godzillagan: This should be your diagramm

Top man RThis is what I was looking for.So I stick with the 16/1 emp and can I use any reasonable 4/1 switches like a chess, octogon, best, diseqc 1.1 switch?I have built the dish take some photos and its going up this week. I can finish getting the switches now.All pics and stuff coming on a my dish thread shortly.Cheers to all

 

[Huevos]

I stick with the 16/1 emp and can I use any reasonable 4/1 switches like a chess, octogon, best, diseqc 1.1 switch?l

The 16:1 is DiSEqC 1.1 so whatever 4:1 switches you use need to be DiSEqC 1.0 so there is no conflict. Also this will only work if the receiver sends the DiSEqC 1.1 command before the DiSEqC 1.0 command. What receiver have you decided to use in the end?

 

[godzillafan]

The 16:1 is DiSEqC 1.1 so whatever 4:1 switches you use need to be DiSEqC 1.0 so there is no conflict. Also this will only work if the receiver sends the DiSEqC 1.1 command before the DiSEqC 1.0 command. What receiver have you decided to use in the end?

HI h It's come down to the xtrend 5000 and solo. only 10bucks in it, but just working out if solo is being got rid off for good. I nearly went for the qbox Buy the lack if reviews keeps putting me off. so its xtrend or solo, seems xtrend has the edge any thoughts.cheers

 

[Huevos]

HI h It's come down to the xtrend 5000 and solo. only 10bucks in it, but just working out if solo is being got rid off for good.

I don't know about the future for the Solo, but does it really matter if it becomes an old model, after all it will still do all the things you bought it for? Personally I would take a chance and buy the Xtrend 5000 for the blind search capability, but I can't vouch for it as I don't have one (yet).

 

[godzillafan]

I don't know about the future for the Solo, but does it really matter if it becomes an old model, after all it will still do all the things you bought it for? Personally I would take a chance and buy the Xtrend 5000 for the blind search capability, but I can't vouch for it as I don't have one (yet).

I agree the more I think about the xtrend interests me more and more.Just working out which firmware to get I know some places preload it. But u can load your own and its a usb job. So not restriction on where u buy in UK as its the same price everywhere. 239 in about 4/5 places.What firm are u using?