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<blockquote data-quote="2old4this" data-source="post: 212" data-attributes="member: 174998"><p>Say what you want about Jack de Booij, director of M-Sat in Axel, NL... the bloke's got balls!</p><p></p><p>He's sent the following message to his existing customer database via email (translation at bottom):</p><p></p><p>"De verkoop van blanco smartcard’s, programmers, blokkers en season interface’s is toegestaan zolang zij niet worden gekocht met de bedoeling daarmee gratis naar Canal plus / Canal Digitaal. te kijken. Echter het is steeds verboden om installaties of voorzieningen te verkopen als het de verkoper duidelijk is dat deze aangeschaft worden met de bedoeling gratis naar betaaltelevisie te kijken. In dat geval is het dus ook niet toegestaan om schotels, TV’s en decoders te verkopen.</p><p>In tegenstelling tot de bewering van Canal+ dat er vanaf heden geen blanco smartcards of programmers verkocht zullen worden door M-Sat, zal M-Sat zoals u zult begrijpen blanco smartcards en programmers blijven verkopen, evenals overig toebehoren bij het kijken naar uw (satelliet) TV."</p><p></p><p>TRANSLATION:</p><p></p><p>The sale of blank smartcards, programmers, blockers and Season interfaces is permitted as long as they are not sold for the purpose of free-viewing of Canal-Plus/Canal-Digitaal. However, it is still forbidden to sell installations or goods if it is obvious to the seller that they are purchased with the intention of watching pay-tv without paying. In that case, neither is it permitted to sell dishes, TVs or decoders.</p><p>Contrary to the claims of Canal+ that from today no blank smartcards or programmers will be sold by M-Sat, you will appreciate that M-Sat shall continue to sell blank cards and programmers, as well as other items for watching your satellite TV"</p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>You can see where he's going with this. When Canal+ issue their next legal proceedings against him on the grounds of his not having abided by the first ruling, he will claim that at no point did he sell goods to any customer who clearly explained they intended to use them for illegal purposes. So his email is effectively a cloaked instruction to cutsomers not tell him why they want the stuff....</p><p></p><p>So... er, trouble brewing methinks....</p><p></p><p>2old</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2old4this, post: 212, member: 174998"] Say what you want about Jack de Booij, director of M-Sat in Axel, NL... the bloke's got balls! He's sent the following message to his existing customer database via email (translation at bottom): "De verkoop van blanco smartcard’s, programmers, blokkers en season interface’s is toegestaan zolang zij niet worden gekocht met de bedoeling daarmee gratis naar Canal plus / Canal Digitaal. te kijken. Echter het is steeds verboden om installaties of voorzieningen te verkopen als het de verkoper duidelijk is dat deze aangeschaft worden met de bedoeling gratis naar betaaltelevisie te kijken. In dat geval is het dus ook niet toegestaan om schotels, TV’s en decoders te verkopen. In tegenstelling tot de bewering van Canal+ dat er vanaf heden geen blanco smartcards of programmers verkocht zullen worden door M-Sat, zal M-Sat zoals u zult begrijpen blanco smartcards en programmers blijven verkopen, evenals overig toebehoren bij het kijken naar uw (satelliet) TV." TRANSLATION: The sale of blank smartcards, programmers, blockers and Season interfaces is permitted as long as they are not sold for the purpose of free-viewing of Canal-Plus/Canal-Digitaal. However, it is still forbidden to sell installations or goods if it is obvious to the seller that they are purchased with the intention of watching pay-tv without paying. In that case, neither is it permitted to sell dishes, TVs or decoders. Contrary to the claims of Canal+ that from today no blank smartcards or programmers will be sold by M-Sat, you will appreciate that M-Sat shall continue to sell blank cards and programmers, as well as other items for watching your satellite TV" --------------------------------------------------------------- You can see where he's going with this. When Canal+ issue their next legal proceedings against him on the grounds of his not having abided by the first ruling, he will claim that at no point did he sell goods to any customer who clearly explained they intended to use them for illegal purposes. So his email is effectively a cloaked instruction to cutsomers not tell him why they want the stuff.... So... er, trouble brewing methinks.... 2old [/QUOTE]
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