I'm so lost.. Dish size, lnb type, location & signal: Madeira

[davemurgtroyd]

Yes, unless i have two switches since i have 2x DVB-S/S..

I'm still looking at all nearby satellites, then i'll make comparisions & return for more advice on lnb's if nessecary, thanks.

You do NOT have 2 DVB-S you have one tuner that is DVB-S and DVB-S2 capable - they are two different broadcast standards. You really need to do a lot more reading of the basics of satellite broadcasting. It is getting very frustrating trying to argue against all your misconceptions.

 

[RimaNTSS]

right ? or none at all ?

Not only not all, but completely wrong! Firstly, the dish you are looking is only 1.5m dish! Secondly, Global beam is in C-band, so, for that you will need another LNB.

 

[delicacy1]

You're rotfl ? )) & why 1.5m dish ?

Gibertini op-150 s:

Outside dimension(cm) 155 x 166 cm

Reflecting dimension (cm) 150 x 161 cm

Not only not all, but completely wrong! Firstly, the dish you are looking is only 1.5m dish! Secondly, Global beam is in C-band, so, for that you will need another LNB.

 

[RimaNTSS]

why 1.5m dish ?

Simly because

Reflecting dimension (cm) 150

Do you wish to argue about that? ;)
Agree with preciously said.... before you run, learn how to crawl.

 

[delicacy1]

I do. there are different models for the same product, you'll find it at the producer's website.. & cards are optional.

You do NOT have 2 DVB-S you have one tuner that is DVB-S and DVB-S2 capable - they are two different broadcast standards. You really need to do a lot more reading of the basics of satellite broadcasting. It is getting very frustrating trying to argue against all your misconceptions.

 

[davemurgtroyd]

Example of a 360 system in my imagination .. .

Again you show your complete lack of understamding of satellite broadcasting. All DTH broadcast satellite are located in the Clarke belt above the equator so all of them are to the south of you hence no need for 360 degrees nly about 140 degrees max (extreme ends of the arc would be below the horizon)

 

[delicacy1]

hehe, i didn't know i had to put the "161 cm" part of the reflecting dimension in my pocket..
i'll try to make sure it fits in, mate.

Simly because
Do you wish to argue about that? ;)
Agree with preciously said.... before you run, learn how to crawl.

 

[delicacy1]

lnb's can be avoided & put anywhere...

Again you show your complete lack of understamding of satellite broadcasting. All DTH broadcast satellite are located in the Clarke belt above the equator so all of them are to the south of you hence no need for 360 degrees nly about 140 degrees max (extreme ends of the arc would be below the horizon)

 

[dxhound2003]

Question:

Considering the gibertinni dish has a size of 1.66m & i'm in the beam in my location but
10°E / Eutelsat 10A, Global (beam) requires 1.70cm dish, i guess i still can receive a lot of
channels if not the entire beam's channels, right ? or none at all ?

Whenever you get set up you will have to become the resident reporter from Madeira. Published satellite beams are not always reliable. For instance I can get a couple of transponders from the satellite at 7 West even though the published beam is thousands of kilometers away from me.

Some locations like the UK will have many satellite enthusiasts who will be able to report real life reception for different satellites. Unless you have some neighbours who have large dishes and you can check with them, then you might be the only source here to verify what can actually be received on the island.

 

[drats]

Are you here just to wind people up?

 

[RimaNTSS]

hehe, i didn't know i had to put the "161 cm" part of the reflecting dimension in my pocket..

I think there are lots of things you did not know. So, before you shoot out another "bright idea" in the forum you better think twice, other-ways it looks funny.... to not tell more. Look, you've started to think about SAT TV recently, registered today, made more than 30 posts and, at the end of the day, nothing has changed. Just some fun is made. But, in reality, it is not funny.

 

[delicacy1]

But satbeam seems to give precise answers, if not approximate.

Whenever you get set up you will have to become the resident reporter from Madeira. Published satellite beams are not always reliable. For instance I can get a couple of transponders from the satellite at 7 West even though the published beam is thousands of kilometers away from me.

Some locations like the UK will have many satellite enthusiasts who will be able to report real life reception for different satellites. Unless you have some neighbours who have large dishes and you can check with them, then you might be the only source here to verify what can actually be received on the island.

 

[davemurgtroyd]

lnb's can be avoided & put anywhere...

Really and where would that be other than in front of a parabolic reflectinng dish or behind a spherical focusing device (as demonstrated by an Egyptian company). The setup only needs to cover around 140 degrees of arc as that is the limit of satellite visibility above the horizon.

 

[delicacy1]

Someone was rotfl, i only decided to join the party. you're not gonna crucify me about it, r u ?..
for my part the matter's closed.

Are you here just to wind people up?

 

[RimaNTSS]

But satbeam seems to give precise answers, if not approximate.

Perhaps you are right here. So, when you see some discrepancies between satbeems provided coverage maps and your personal observations, you can report them to satbeems for maps to be corrected.

 

[dxhound2003]

But satbeam seems to give precise answers, if not approximate.

Then how come none of their footprints for 7 West come anywhere near Ireland, but I am still able to receive some signals?

 

[davemurgtroyd]

But satbeam seems to give precise answers, if not approximate.

All such sites are based either on reports from locals OR on estimated reception published by the satellite owners neither of which can be regarded as gospel truth and not only that but reception can differ widely over 1 km apart due to imperfections in the dishes on the satellite itself which is 22,000 + miles away and a few microns blemish can cayse major difference.

 

[Lazarus]

I'm not convinced that this discussion is leading towards a constructive outcome and am minded, at the very least, to suspend it for a while, pending discussion with other Staff.

However, as I'm currently engrossed in "Vera", I'll let it ride ..... for now.

 

[delicacy1]

That's bloody crazy Dave, & i thought satbeams.com infos were based on scientific calculations )) So many elements can interfer with receptivity.
But quality lnb's & dish will hopefully offer me the best chances.

All such sites are based either on reports from locals OR on estimated reception published by the satellite owners neither of which can be regarded as gospel truth and not only that but reception can differ widely over 1 km apart due to imperfections in the dishes on the satellite itself which is 22,000 + miles away and a few microns blemish can cayse major difference.

 

[Captain Jack]

Satbeams simply publishes the data provided by the satellite operator / manufacturer. While footprints are getting more and more accurate, it's still a best guess estimate.